Initial Startup
Initial Startup
I am about to fire, for the first time, my transplanted and completly rebuilt 1990 L98 5.7 TPI. Any precautions/suggestions??
I know it is a very general question but any advise would be apprecitated.
Alittle background...
Lunati Cam .510 lift .213 duration (single pattern)
Ceramic Coated Tri-Y headers
700R4
Pocket ported 113 heads
Balanced, line honed
Decked (w/plate)
Approximately 10 to 1
Stock HEI
Comp Ultra Pro Mag rockers 1.6 and 1.52
No EGR, no VATS, no emmisions required
True roller chain w/torrington bearing
Thanks in advance...
I know it is a very general question but any advise would be apprecitated.
Alittle background...
Lunati Cam .510 lift .213 duration (single pattern)
Ceramic Coated Tri-Y headers
700R4
Pocket ported 113 heads
Balanced, line honed
Decked (w/plate)
Approximately 10 to 1
Stock HEI
Comp Ultra Pro Mag rockers 1.6 and 1.52
No EGR, no VATS, no emmisions required
True roller chain w/torrington bearing
Thanks in advance...
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Car: 00 SSEi / 94 C4
Engine: 231 / 383
Transmission: 4T65E / ZF 6sp
Axle/Gears: 2.93 / Dana 44 3:45
Re: Initial Startup
typical new start manually prime the oil pump look for oil pressure
check fuel pressure...
make sure you line up the rotor @ the exhaust valve of number 3 CYL
easier start
unplug your adv time... short A&B on your ALDL
warm up check for leaks set static to 6*
your going to need a tune... that's for sure
check fuel pressure...
make sure you line up the rotor @ the exhaust valve of number 3 CYL
easier start
unplug your adv time... short A&B on your ALDL
warm up check for leaks set static to 6*
your going to need a tune... that's for sure
Re: Initial Startup
typical new start manually prime the oil pump look for oil pressure
check fuel pressure...
make sure you line up the rotor @ the exhaust valve of number 3 CYL
easier start
unplug your adv time... short A&B on your ALDL
warm up check for leaks set static to 6*
your going to need a tune... that's for sure
check fuel pressure...
make sure you line up the rotor @ the exhaust valve of number 3 CYL
easier start
unplug your adv time... short A&B on your ALDL
warm up check for leaks set static to 6*
your going to need a tune... that's for sure
Why is 6* so important for static timing. Can't I set it to 8*?
Re: Initial Startup
Any thoughts?
Re: Initial Startup
UPDATE...I contacted Howell Engineering (the people who programmed the PROM) and he said since I'm running the #113 Aluminum heads I can set my base timing from 8 to 10 degrees. I understand this to mean the base timing in the PROM must have some wiggle room.
Any thoughts?
Any thoughts?
Fired up the motor for the first time and I can't get it to idle at less than 950. Idle screw is backed out away from the linkage and the butterflys are where they are supposed to be.
Prior to the initial start I set the TPS to .50, knowing I would be setting it again after I got things settled down, and I set the initial timing at 8*, with the spout disconnected, then reconnected. The motor sounds AWESOME but I need to get it on the road and get the rings seated so any help would be greatly appreciated. I did the IAC procedure (jumper A&B and disconnect the IAC etc. and heard the IAC motor move. Also check engine light is on.
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Re: Initial Startup
Ok I need some HELP please!!!
Fired up the motor for the first time and I can't get it to idle at less than 950. Idle screw is backed out away from the linkage and the butterflys are where they are supposed to be.
Prior to the initial start I set the TPS to .50, knowing I would be setting it again after I got things settled down, and I set the initial timing at 8*, with the spout disconnected, then reconnected. The motor sounds AWESOME but I need to get it on the road and get the rings seated so any help would be greatly appreciated. I did the IAC procedure (jumper A&B and disconnect the IAC etc. and heard the IAC motor move. Also check engine light is on.
Fired up the motor for the first time and I can't get it to idle at less than 950. Idle screw is backed out away from the linkage and the butterflys are where they are supposed to be.
Prior to the initial start I set the TPS to .50, knowing I would be setting it again after I got things settled down, and I set the initial timing at 8*, with the spout disconnected, then reconnected. The motor sounds AWESOME but I need to get it on the road and get the rings seated so any help would be greatly appreciated. I did the IAC procedure (jumper A&B and disconnect the IAC etc. and heard the IAC motor move. Also check engine light is on.

I got the base idle where it needs to be by re-jumping the ALDL and unplugging the IAC. Must have not completly jumped it correcdtly the first time. I also got the TPS set to .54. Now (as I previously said) the SES light stays on so I ran down the code to a 43 (electronic spark control circuit). It this either the knock sensor or the module in the distributor? The knock sensor is new!
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Car: 00 SSEi / 94 C4
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Axle/Gears: 2.93 / Dana 44 3:45
Re: Initial Startup
Did your factory prom get these codes???
put your factory prom back in to see if you get the same ESCC code 43
check your connection on the KS....
you cant read the H.E. custom... so have them send you a printout of what they actually changed... did they balance out your timing from... 600 - 1000 rpm's ????
factory injectors??? you have a lack of info..... to really respond
any other mods....??? did you verify vacuum leaks??? have you even ran your mods on the factory prom
to make sure your base is working properly... idle should be fine.......
put your factory prom back in to see if you get the same ESCC code 43
check your connection on the KS....
you cant read the H.E. custom... so have them send you a printout of what they actually changed... did they balance out your timing from... 600 - 1000 rpm's ????
factory injectors??? you have a lack of info..... to really respond
any other mods....??? did you verify vacuum leaks??? have you even ran your mods on the factory prom
to make sure your base is working properly... idle should be fine.......
Last edited by 88gta3508; Aug 26, 2011 at 01:06 PM.
Re: Initial Startup
Did your factory prom get these codes???
put your factory prom back in to see if you get the same ESCC code 43
check your connection on the KS....
you cant read the H.E. custom... so have them send you a printout of what they actually changed... did they balance out your timing from... 600 - 1000 rpm's ????
factory injectors??? you have a lack of info..... to really respond
any other mods....??? did you verify vacuum leaks??? have you even ran your mods on the factory prom
to make sure your base is working properly... idle should be fine.......
put your factory prom back in to see if you get the same ESCC code 43
check your connection on the KS....
you cant read the H.E. custom... so have them send you a printout of what they actually changed... did they balance out your timing from... 600 - 1000 rpm's ????
factory injectors??? you have a lack of info..... to really respond
any other mods....??? did you verify vacuum leaks??? have you even ran your mods on the factory prom
to make sure your base is working properly... idle should be fine.......
Never had a factory PROM
7730 computer came from a donor vehicle (checked OK)
24# bosch/denso injectors
no vacuum leaks (that I can find/hear)
painless wiring harness
this motor has been transplanted into 1985 GMC 4WD pickup
replaced EVERYTHING (I think)
Painless sent me a diagnostic flow chart to check the Knock so I'll do that over the weekend
Bored .020 over
Thank you for your help...
Re: Initial Startup
I guess a little more back ground is in order...
Never had a factory PROM
7730 computer came from a donor vehicle (checked OK)
24# bosch/denso injectors
no vacuum leaks (that I can find/hear)
painless wiring harness
this motor has been transplanted into 1985 GMC 4WD pickup
replaced EVERYTHING (I think)
Painless sent me a diagnostic flow chart to check the Knock so I'll do that over the weekend
Bored .020 over
Thank you for your help...
Never had a factory PROM
7730 computer came from a donor vehicle (checked OK)
24# bosch/denso injectors
no vacuum leaks (that I can find/hear)
painless wiring harness
this motor has been transplanted into 1985 GMC 4WD pickup
replaced EVERYTHING (I think)
Painless sent me a diagnostic flow chart to check the Knock so I'll do that over the weekend
Bored .020 over
Thank you for your help...

I feel the idle is too high when warm...what should these TPI motors idle at when warmed up? (auto tranny)
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Car: 00 SSEi / 94 C4
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Transmission: 4T65E / ZF 6sp
Axle/Gears: 2.93 / Dana 44 3:45
Re: Initial Startup
do you know if H.E. modified the cold idle settings
factory cold idle will bounce around from 1800ish if i recall correct
once it reaches closed loop you should idle @ 850
P.S. now this is where GM should have installed A TPI motor... in a truck
a perfect match for low end torque... nice choice... I know you will be happy with that upgrade!!!
not sure the 700Weak4 will be so happy
factory cold idle will bounce around from 1800ish if i recall correct
once it reaches closed loop you should idle @ 850
P.S. now this is where GM should have installed A TPI motor... in a truck
a perfect match for low end torque... nice choice... I know you will be happy with that upgrade!!!
not sure the 700Weak4 will be so happy
Last edited by 88gta3508; Aug 30, 2011 at 10:23 AM.
Re: Initial Startup
do you know if H.E. modified the cold idle settings
factory cold idle will bounce around from 1800ish if i recall correct
once it reaches closed loop you should idle @ 850
P.S. now this is where GM should have installed A TPI motor... in a truck
a perfect match for low end torque... nice choice... I know you will be happy with that upgrade!!!
not sure the 700Weak4 will be so happy
factory cold idle will bounce around from 1800ish if i recall correct
once it reaches closed loop you should idle @ 850
P.S. now this is where GM should have installed A TPI motor... in a truck
a perfect match for low end torque... nice choice... I know you will be happy with that upgrade!!!
not sure the 700Weak4 will be so happy
H.E. seems to have gone cold turkey on responding to my e-mails but I'll keep checking with them. That said I don't know if they modified the cold idle settings. The motor runs faster on initial start then settles down, which is the way it is supposed to be, I think.
Thanks for the continued help
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