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Dyno Dissapoitment

Old Oct 14, 2012 | 06:46 PM
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Dyno Dissapoitment

Well just had my car on a dyno for the first time and it was a lot worse then I thought it was going to be. I thought my HP was going to be in the mid 2s being that I have a 350 with some mild upgrades.

183 HP and 260 ft lbs.
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 07:10 PM
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Re: Dyno Dissapoitment

im also getting ready for the dyno here in a few months, i have never had my 305 tpi dyno'd and figured it would be time at the local dyno day, after seeing this, might drive the other car and leave her home
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 07:40 PM
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Re: Dyno Dissapoitment

Originally Posted by SSJBaku
im also getting ready for the dyno here in a few months, i have never had my 305 tpi dyno'd and figured it would be time at the local dyno day, after seeing this, might drive the other car and leave her home
I would still take yours. I would want to know what its putting out. I have a 305 tbi and it dynoed 150hp and 250tq. it only had a air filter and exhaust at the time.
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 07:49 PM
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Re: Dyno Dissapoitment

yeah i still may, will be different numbers for sure, got used to the numbers from the other car, so might make me want to throw more money at my camaro
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 08:42 PM
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Re: Dyno Dissapoitment

those are some pretty low number..
is everything working correctly? did the trans feel like it was slipping?
my ultimate TBI mods 305 put down 225 whp
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 08:42 PM
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Re: Dyno Dissapoitment

Originally Posted by seiplentz
Well just had my car on a dyno for the first time and it was a lot worse then I thought it was going to be. I thought my HP was going to be in the mid 2s being that I have a 350 with some mild upgrades.

183 HP and 260 ft lbs.
Remember, you loose about 20% through the drive train, so that would put you a little over 220 hp at the crank. I see you have an '85, so the 350 was added to your camaro? How good of a tune do you have?

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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 09:03 PM
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Re: Dyno Dissapoitment

I think the tune is a big part of it. I am still running the 870 ecm and some prom I got that ran better then the stock one not even sure where it came from.

The 350 was added along with a mild street cam and 24lb blue top injectors. The trans has a 2500 stall converter and a nasty shift kit.

The car runs like a beast chirps hard into 2nd. It doesn't feel like 183HP
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 09:11 PM
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Re: Dyno Dissapoitment

You need a custom tune bad. Call Brian http://tbichips.com/ With a mild cam and 24lb injectors, You need a tune for what you have.
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 07:36 AM
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 08:05 AM
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Re: Dyno Dissapoitment

Wow, that peaks early and drops off fast.
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 08:16 AM
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Re: Dyno Dissapoitment

What do you have for exhaust?
I definately recommend tbichips for mail order tune they got mine pretty dead on im sure a tune would help ALOT!
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 08:27 AM
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Re: Dyno Dissapoitment

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Wow, that peaks early and drops off fast.
I thought that as well. I almost think the guy driving it didnt stay in it. I only told him that I had a rev limit set at 5600 by the msd.

As far as exhaust I have Flowtech shortys into a flowtech y pipe hollow cat and flowmaster cat back I think its 3".

This pretty much sealed the deal for me on a tune or ecm swap. I am on the fence with getting megasquirt or a ebl flash both are very close in price.
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 08:57 AM
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Re: Dyno Dissapoitment

Yea, something isn't right. For both to peak at 3600 rpm and H.P. dropping off like that by 4300 rpm. I wouldn't worry too much about the numbers from this pull. Get it tuned properly and then dyno it again.

My car is carbed, but the lessoned learned is the same. When I first got my motor running, it wouldnt even chirp the tires. Now, just through tuning, I can spin them up to 70 and maybe past, and it runs 112 in the quarter. Tuning can make all the difference in the world.
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 03:43 PM
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Re: Dyno Dissapoitment

It seems to me like you have a tuning problem (fuel and timing) and possibly a restriction somewhere giving a quick dropoff...
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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Re: Dyno Dissapoitment

Originally Posted by seiplentz
I think the tune is a big part of it. I am still running the 870 ecm and some prom I got that ran better then the stock one not even sure where it came from.

The 350 was added along with a mild street cam and 24lb blue top injectors. The trans has a 2500 stall converter and a nasty shift kit.

The car runs like a beast chirps hard into 2nd. It doesn't feel like 183HP
The stock 85 PROM is awful on a TPI350 with larger injectors. Without knowing what PROM you have, it's hard to say, but it's probably nearly as bad.

As an example, when I put my TPI 350 with 24lb injectors into my 85, and reused the original PROM, I ran a best 1/4 mile time of 16.1. That's worse than a stock TPI 305 ran in 85. Since swapping to a 165 ECM with a custom tune, swapping to a T5 (whose performance benefit is negligible), and adding a couple small bolt-ons (runners, accel base, etc), I've gotten the same car with the same motor to run as fast as 13.6 in the 1/4. So yes, the tune is vitally important.
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