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Old 04-24-2003, 11:19 AM
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G-Force T-5???

HELL YEAH!!! Check this out!!! I paid $550 for the parts from Hanlon Motorsports, but if I wouldve waited and saved $950, I couldve gotten the upgrade kit from G-Force! I spoke to the tech at G-Force and he said they have a few cars going 9's on the SYNCRONIZED UNIT. He has no idea how fast the FACE TOOTH UNIT will go.

Click here to see this!!!

I'm pissed and excited all at the same time! Imagine that, no more conversion kits!!! Stock appearing stuff!!!

Hey moderators!!! Make this a sticky!!! I think this post deserves STICKY STATUS!!!
Old 04-24-2003, 12:30 PM
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I guess no one finds this interesting huh?
Old 04-24-2003, 12:31 PM
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i find it very interesting, i put it in my links list.

did you actualy call and talk to them?
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did you actualy call and talk to them?
Yep! I sure did! I had to, I couldnt resist! I dont know if anyone who has read this thread realizes this or not, but this is about $1000 cheaper than a TKO, T-56, or an Automatic swap. EVERY AFTERMARKET SHIFTER for a Camaro T-5 bolts right to this thing. No "custom" holes in the floor or console damage. No custom transmission cross members. No fiddling around with electric speedo signal conversion boxes. No cutting, welding, or bending up new shifters to make them fit. Hell, I bet you could take a S-10 T-5, stick the kit in, and slide it into the Chevrolet of your choice!

Only thing is, they say that this thing wines like a S.O.B.

BTW, they make the kit for Mustangs too.

Hey G-Force! :hail: :lala:
Old 04-24-2003, 12:57 PM
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i thought when reading that it was a kit for the mustang t5, that is why i asked

i am at the point where i am looking for a new tranny because the t5 just won't last at the power level i am getting to, this may just save me from having to plop down $2400 for the TKO.
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I called them back to verify and I got a different tech.

According to THIS tech, the kit is ONLY available to WC T-5's. They DO NOT have a kit for the NON-WC T-5's at this point. They DO have the Chevy kits AND the Ford kits...
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ack, your going to make me get under my car and see if i have a WC or not.

and of course when i had the tranny out of the car 3 months ago, i didn't write down the numbers on it.
Old 04-24-2003, 03:28 PM
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I believe if your car is an '88 and up, you have a WC stock. If you changed it then you'll have to get up under it and see.
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So its spline for our cars too?
I like, one of the best upgrades (I think) to drivetrain of our cars. Stronger, yet close to nil of a weight gain, they do the upgrade, company understands high load/rpm shifting, looks & fits OEM, nice O.D. too. Only draw back I see for a daily driver is having to either buy a trannie or renting/bumming a ride to work during the turn around time, not a biggy though. I like.
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Well, if you know how to turn wrenches, you can do it yourself. Like I mentioned earlier (I think I mentioned this earlier), I just rebuilt my T-5 and had I known then what I know now, I wouldve ordered their kit instead of Hanlon's. Dont get me wrong, the Hanlon stuff is cool and all but I like the idea of having upgraded parts .
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Axle/Gears: 3.42 Eaton Posi, 10 Bolt
i think this kit is going to be my next purchase.
Old 04-25-2003, 03:14 PM
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Same here.
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Just out of curiosity...

Ive been thinking about switching from my 700-R4 to a 5 speed, does anyone know if they sell T-5s with the kit already in it, and if so, how much would it cost?
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Oops,, just saw this -

Entirely new transmissions with the kit pre-installed are available if you don't already have a T-5. This assures all new parts are utilized and also gives you the peace of mind knowing that your transmission was assembled by highly skilled technicians.

Anyone know how much they would cost through?
Old 04-27-2003, 06:09 AM
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Transmission: T-5 5 speed
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$1950 according to both techs I spoke to at G-Force. About the same as a Tremec TKO but again, no special crossmembers, shifters, custom length driveshafts, bellhousing adapters (all you need is a lakewood blowshield), etc.
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Car: 1991 Formula
Engine: 355 DFI Superram w/ R-Trim
Transmission: Probuilt 700r4
How much is the upgrade? (if we send in a core)
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Heck, I never asked that question. I will call today and find out.
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mm, ya Id like to know how much for just a rebuild kit to convert mine over.

Some of us could deff. do it our-selfs.
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS
Engine: L03 305 V-8 (for now ;) )
Transmission: T-5 5 speed
Axle/Gears: stock... whatever that means :)
Kit= $950

Trans= $1950

WC ONLY!!!

I rebuilt my WC, and installed it yesterday. I found out about the kit THE DAY AFTER I finished the rebuild, so yes I was PISSED! Damn near $600 in parts and I couldve spent $350 bucks more and wouldve never had to worry about the tranny weakness ever again.


I still havent figured out why this thread hasnt been made sticky yet ...

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Car: 1990 Camaro RS
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did you happen to find out the price if we send them our WC t5 housing?
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I just spoke to the guy from G-Force and he said that they can rebuild a core for $1150 plus shipping. The guy from G-Force will be posting here soon with ALL THE INFO. I told him about the site and he sounds pretty damn excited about our interest in the T-5.
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so only $200 for the peice of mind of having a proffesional at g-force install their kit, that doesn't sound too bad to me.
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Thats what the man said!
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i wonder how long the turn around time is.
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They said approximately 1 week.
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yeah this all sounds good but i thought the weark point in the t5 was the case streching and then that allows the internals to shift around? How do they solve that?
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That I dont know. All I can tell you is what they told me. I didnt know that the case would stretch. I thought it would just crack.
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Car: 1989 TransAm GTA
Engine: One sweet modified 355 TPI.
Transmission: The kind that shifts....
This sounds awesome, they've now become a bookmark so I can give them a ring when I'm ready to do a manual swap in my GTA. I wish I'd win the lotto now. I really do!

Not ready to do the swap, i'm poor. But when I'm ready I will definitely look them up.
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This sound to good to be true, yea u get upgraded and stronger gears but the whole thing that tremec says is there just isn't enough room inside the t-5 case for bigger gears, also i always thought it was the case flex that ruined these things but after starting to get into mustangs more and more i see that these guys blow them and rebuild them and there fine so i am guessing the case flex this is bull. alright so some1 has to be first and try this kit out and tell every1 if its the real deal or just another scam like the tornado lol
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS
Engine: L03 305 V-8 (for now ;) )
Transmission: T-5 5 speed
Axle/Gears: stock... whatever that means :)
I REALLY dont believe that the company that has supplied 5 speed transmissions to NHRA Pro Stock Truck, NIRA (Imports... are those the letters?), NHRA Pro Stock and MANY MANY OTHERS would get a kick out of scamming us or anyone else. Now I told the guy at G-Force that he needs to come and post here to FULLY explain EVERYTHING to us. Im only giving you all information that was given to me. I guarantee you I will have this kit soon, but I wont install it until I get my new engine together. And if no one else beats me to it, I will be letting everyone know how well it works.

Call it a scam all you want. Its amazing how everytime someone comes out with a decent product, someone ALWAYS has to be a HATER and play it down.

Sad...

And another thing. I can tell you from EXPERIENCE that there is more room on the inside of that case. I rebuilt my T-5, so I know...
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Axle/Gears: 4.10 on a torsen diff
they refer to the dog ring type as "race only". Can anyone tell me why it's not streetable (or if it really is streetable and they don't want me to know)
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Transmission: T-5 5 speed
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It can be driven on the street but downshifting can be a pain in the ***. I read an article many many years ago about G-Force's dog-ring setup. Basically, if you know how to upshift and downshift without the clutch, or if you have ever driven a BIG truck, then you know what I mean when I say RPM MATCHED DOWNSHIFTING is required if you get the dog-ring setup. The good thing about the dog-ring setup is that if you have a good shifter, YOU WONT MISS A GEAR. If you do, you dont need to drive PERIOD.
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That's all? I thought there would be serious driving issues or something. Driving big trucks is just part of work, no big deal.
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<<< Class A CDL, so no problem here neither.
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those types of transmissions suck ***** on a daily driver. The only time you'll ever want to drive your car is when you go to the track. But, from the sounds of things, their synchronized transmissions are built to support high horsepower too.

As for not fitting bigger gears... that's pretty much true. I don't think these are bigger, they're just more of a straight cut gear. That makes them much stronger, and much noisier.
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Well Imma get the syncronized kit myself. The gears in the kit are WIDER and like Jim metioned above, they are cut straighter. They are also made from a different material, 9310 as opposed to whatever Borg Warner made them from.
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Car: 1989 TransAm GTA
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Transmission: The kind that shifts....
Personally, I love the trannies and intend to buy one of theirs when I get the money together. :hail: :hail:<- Manual + 350TPI -> :hail: :hail:

Which will probably be by next summer. My new(used) 700r4 tranny feels good, but it still delays too long between shifts when its in OD. When in D the shifts are better but still too soft for my liking. I eventually wanna do a turbo setup(if any kits ever come out for it) or a major intake/head/cam/exhaust upgrade all at once to fully enjoy the upgrade. I know my 700r4 will not last if I ever get it up to my dream goals. This G-force tranny, or a built 700r4 are pretty much the only alternatives open to my price range as well as not requiring any fabrication.
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This is amazing!! I am sooo glad I waited to rebuild my T5. I have a brand new rebuild kit from 5speeds.com, but I haven't had the time to dig into it...procrastination finally pays off!

I was also just thinking, how the hell I am going to get my car back on the road quickly. My new engine setup needs a good strong transmission behind it for sure. I think I found my answer! I will be getting this trans kit for sure. I'm calling them tomorrow to setup the rebuild. Stay tuned for details!!
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No! You cant do it! I was supposed to be first!

Make sure you let us know as soon as you drive it!
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You Guys will be the first to know :lala:
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Transmission: T-5 5 speed
Axle/Gears: stock... whatever that means :)
Are you ordering the synchronized kit or the face-tooth kit?
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These sound pretty good,
Im surprised we havent heard from anyone yet that has actually used one of their kits or transmissions. Who is going to be the volunteer to order one, beat it to death and let us know it holds up?
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I still want to know if the synchronized kit is rated for the same power levels as the other style.
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Both kits are rated the same.

I wont be able to order the kit until the summer. If you scroll up, I believe SCOTT C is gonna beat me to ordering the kit. So, he may be first to tell us something.
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I'm still waiting on this guy to come on this board with some more details as was mentioned above..... I suppose I'll call them anyway though.

I want to see if they will rebuild mine - although it's an 83 T-5 (BW). It just says T-5 in their add....doesn't mention that it has to be WC. Can't be that big of a difference between the two. Hell, they look identical so far as I can tell.

If they tell me WC only on the phone, then I may be screwed on this one.

Maybe..just maybe- they'll just take mine in trade and send a WC for less than 1950. I'll find out...

SCOTT C - I also plan to get the ZZ4 in the near future, so I'm really interested in this too. With the .53 5th gear, why bother hassling with swapping to a T-56??
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Do I smell a group purchase?
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If somebody can thrash this thing for awhile and come back with favorable results I will definately be up for a GP. I hope somebody has some info soon cause I am on #7 700r4 and it is either a TKO or the G-Force T-5.
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glad I have a second T-5 sitting at home, I may just have to order the parts for it and get it built up instead of doing a T-56 swap. I like the taller overdrive gear they put in, makes 5th gear almost the same as 6th in the T-56.


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