get this I have been running this t-5 for quite some time now years. and have chewed up rear end after rear end but sat I put in a 9bolt 3.45 and decided to take it for a quick ride. I made sure everything was well worked in all the diff fluid had time to go from axle to axle. I gave it a little as I was comming up a hill the as I slid it into third it made a sound like when someone misses a shift so I pulled back on the shifter right away and then let off the clutch and all I could hear was a clunking. tried 3rd again as I was costing down the hill and nothing, so I tried all the other gears with no problem but, still the clunking noise, so I limp it home (around the corner) pull it apart and third gear and the counter shaft are destroyed. the counter shaft has no teeth at all for 3rd and third geat is missing a whole bunch of teeth.

what gets me is why now? oh well I guess but, does any one know who sells a counter shaft for a 88 t-5 that does not cost 300+ I can find the 3rd gear every where even beefy ones for the trans (30teeth) but the only counter shafts I find are nuts wtf for a little more you could have a used t56

 

I dunno, but you gotta admit, you got your $ out of the tranny

I'll see what I can do tomorrow.

 

You have mail

 

i have a t-5 also i heard that 3rd was the weak gear in them. I was thinkin about maybe just rebuilding it instead of goin with a 6-speed. Does ne1 know if you can actually get the t-5 rebuilt to withold some hp.

 

I blew mine a couple weeks ago. The whole 3-4 assembly was in pieces. Not to mention I lost the input shaft bearing thus wiping out the mainshaft and probably the input shaft, couple syncros looked like they went through a garbage disposer, and it broke a shift fork! I pulled it and there were a bunch of metal in the bottom and the fluid had a silver color to it from all the shavings.

 

The G-force kit will hold 600 hp w/ drag radials and a moderate clutch, but it'll set you back $1600 ($200 more if they install it) for the kit, or $2000 for a built tranny straight from them.

 

well thats stupid cause u could get a t-56 for that. I would get a world class heavy duty t-5 b4 i spent that on that kit.

 

Yes, but T56's are only rated to 450 tq. You can get a WC T5, but they're only good for like 300 tq. or so. I'm not saying it's exspensive, it is, but if you're running a lot of power you're tranny's going to be exspensive if you want it to hold. I don't have the money now, so the kit isn't an option. We'll see how the WC T5 holds up to 500hp and 550tq. As long as I don't abuse it (i.e. powershift, clutch dump) I'll be alright.

 

The add i was reading on the wc said it held up to 600 and said it was virtualy bullet proof.

 

Are you talking about the ad for a G-force tranny or a stock WC T5. The stock ones are far, far from bullet proof... cap gun proof, maybe, but not bullet proof...

 

the add said it was a heavy duty one it was in jegs catalog

 

What's the part number on it?

 

it might have been in the ford section ill check tomorrow but arent the camaro and ford t-5's the same??

 

Kind of... Internally I believe they are basically the same, but I do know the cases are different. They won't work in Chevy's.

 

ugh ok then so wouldnt they make the same 1 for a chevy tho like the same internals

 

Well the internals are basically the same, but not identical. For some reason the beefed up T5's are more popular for Fords than for Chevy's, why that is so I don't really know. I would think it would be about the same. If they did make them for a reasonable price though, I think there would be a good market, but since all the kits are ridiculously priced they're not in high demand.

 

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=175170

If youre gonna build it yourself, the drop in kit from G-Force is only $950 for everything.

 

The $950 is for the gears 1-4 ONLY. That does not include a mainshaft or 5th (overdrive) gears. The kit for the entire tranny is about $1600. I've got the price sheet around here somewhere, and I've also posted the prices on another thread in the transmission forum.

 

Has anyone in here actually broken a mainshaft? Anyone here powershift into 5th and break the O.D. gears? Does anyone here shift into 5th when they drag race? I keep hearing about countershafts breaking. Hell, my RS had a broken countershaft when I got it (input shaft gear and the mating gear trashed). Even G-Force said that unless youre doing some REALLY EXTREME STUFF, you dont need the mainshaft. I would consider the steel shift forks though.

$1600? Not necessary...

 

You can mate them up but you need a custom adaptor plate to mate to the chevy bellhousing. I am not sure if they are mass produced but a guy over at corvette.com made his own since mustang t-5's are plentiful and he is an engineer. Seems with the number of f-bodies and mustangs somebody would make a adaptor plate like they do to mate a chevy th350 to a buick/olds/pontiac block.

 

I believe the problem is the shifter location on the mustang t-5. It is way forward in relation to a fbody t5.

 

I blew my WC T5 yesterday... first it was hard to shif out of gear.. then the whining got louder... then it started to knock... then I got the shifter into the neutral position... and it was still in gear... then WHAM back wheels locked up!

 

sounds bad, are you going to open it up and see what let loose?

 

Guess I'm stupid then.

 

I dunno... I don't think it's something that I'm up for! Can I do it with a Chiltons?

 

well, I don't think the chiltion goes into it well if at all. but, I think if you feel you can take the trans out, do clutch jobs ect. (nothing real major just the basic knowledge of how things work) then yes it is a very simple trans. if you plan to fix it I guess it depends on whats wrong. like mine it was not worth fixing and every one wanted way too much for a used t-5 so I said forget it. got the t-56 for even less than the t-5 counter shaft alone!

if you just want to see whats going on inside ,there are plenty of us who have taken them apart. and if you want same the other way too.

I think I had left a link to a sight that shows the t-5 break down and assembley instructions on another post

 

http://www.ttcautomotive.com/English/products/T-5.asp

I know it says tremec but, it should still be the same or atleast close enough since tremec bought it or bought out borgwarner? can't remember it's not like it matters anyway

 

Chances are whatever blew will be more exspensive than a new (used) T5, but it would be good experience to crack it open and take a look at it. There's not a whole lot to them really.

 

Dizamn is all I can say there. I remember sending you prices for the countershaft and you flat out stole a T56 if you got it for less than that.

 

everything has to break sometime. It probably wasn't the new rear that broke it, its the hundreds of hard launchs and shifts prior to that. I have a friend who constantly asks, well why did that break then? It's gotta go sometimes.

I don't know how GM T5's compare to Ford's T5's they put in mustangs but I have tried to help my friend put his frod T5 back together twice, that thing is a cluster #$%#. I am a mechanic, but have zero knowledge of the inner workings of a manual gear box. We had a half *** diagrahm, it didn't help, he ended up taking it to a local rearend shop and had them put it back together. He blew reverse out of it, and some countershaft or something. I don't remember.

Good luck.
Jason

 

I posted this a very long timeago. I know the rear did not make it break.