Rear end??
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Rear end??
Alright, I am going to be needing rearend work and I don't really think spending the money on my stocker as money well spent. Maybe I am wrong.
I want some of you to tell me how the aftermarket rears are working out. Also what rears. Moser, Strange, any others...
My combo is not overpower right now, but I expect it to be pretty powerful once I get the blower. In the mean time, I figure whats the point of spending like a $1000 or more and then in a year or so, have to throw it away to make way for something stronger. I don't mind spending money now and not having to worry about it later. BTW, my rear is a stock, open diff, 3.42.
I quickly looked at Spohn's site and priced out a Moser 12, came to under $2200 with C-clip eliminators and all the other stuff I would want.
Anywhere to look at for good deals. I know Ebay is popular, but I am very skeptical. Probably wouldn't buy from someone there, but may be worth looking into.
Thanks and sorry for the length...
I want some of you to tell me how the aftermarket rears are working out. Also what rears. Moser, Strange, any others...
My combo is not overpower right now, but I expect it to be pretty powerful once I get the blower. In the mean time, I figure whats the point of spending like a $1000 or more and then in a year or so, have to throw it away to make way for something stronger. I don't mind spending money now and not having to worry about it later. BTW, my rear is a stock, open diff, 3.42.
I quickly looked at Spohn's site and priced out a Moser 12, came to under $2200 with C-clip eliminators and all the other stuff I would want.
Anywhere to look at for good deals. I know Ebay is popular, but I am very skeptical. Probably wouldn't buy from someone there, but may be worth looking into.
Thanks and sorry for the length...
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Car: '91 Camaro RS
Engine: F1R Procharged 383
Transmission: Tremec 600
Axle/Gears: moser 12 bolt, 4.11's 33 spline axl
If your going to order a moser rear, deal directly with moser, as the prices are exactly the same and you will be dealing with the people at moser engineering themselves.
I have a moser 12 bolt, with richmond 4.10 gears, 33 spline axles, an eaton posi, the support cover, and ford 9" housing ends with press on bearings.....i reccomend getting that setup, as c clip eliminators leak like a ****, and have been known to eat bearings.
i ended up paying about 2400 bucks complete and shipped i think....and 2500 total with all the brake stuff i needed.
if you use the ford housing ends, you need to get the disc brake setup off of a 9 bolt rear....the easiest way to do that is just to go to a junkyard and grab everything, including the backing plates.
cause theres no point in spending 2000 bucks on a rear end and having a band aid part like c-clip eliminators....just have a rear end that is built to be c-clip free
I have a moser 12 bolt, with richmond 4.10 gears, 33 spline axles, an eaton posi, the support cover, and ford 9" housing ends with press on bearings.....i reccomend getting that setup, as c clip eliminators leak like a ****, and have been known to eat bearings.
i ended up paying about 2400 bucks complete and shipped i think....and 2500 total with all the brake stuff i needed.
if you use the ford housing ends, you need to get the disc brake setup off of a 9 bolt rear....the easiest way to do that is just to go to a junkyard and grab everything, including the backing plates.
cause theres no point in spending 2000 bucks on a rear end and having a band aid part like c-clip eliminators....just have a rear end that is built to be c-clip free
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rearend
I bought mine from Moser as well for the same reasons 383 mentioned.
I also went with the Ford ends. That setup looks to be 100% leakproof. As for brakes I used LT1 discs in place of drums. You should be able to find brake components in hardly used condition vs 9bolt stuff.
I also went with the Ford ends. That setup looks to be 100% leakproof. As for brakes I used LT1 discs in place of drums. You should be able to find brake components in hardly used condition vs 9bolt stuff.
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Re: rearend
Originally posted by ZZ405
I bought mine from Moser as well for the same reasons 383 mentioned.
I also went with the Ford ends. That setup looks to be 100% leakproof. As for brakes I used LT1 discs in place of drums. You should be able to find brake components in hardly used condition vs 9bolt stuff.
I bought mine from Moser as well for the same reasons 383 mentioned.
I also went with the Ford ends. That setup looks to be 100% leakproof. As for brakes I used LT1 discs in place of drums. You should be able to find brake components in hardly used condition vs 9bolt stuff.
i took all the stuff from the boneyard, and bought new calipers, just returned the ones i got for cores. bought new rotors, pads e brake cables, etc.
cost me about 100 bucks all together
Last edited by 383backinblack; Oct 27, 2003 at 05:45 AM.
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Thanks for the info...
Yeah, I guess I wrote c clip eliminator but I meant the pressed axle like the Ford uses. Good tip though.
I did not know that dealing with Moser direct would be the same price, I kinda figured it would be more expensive. I will call them first now.
I have read here that some people don't think highly of Moser's assembly techniques or tolerances. What do you two think?
And for the brakes I was thinking of late model Camaro discs or contacting Baer and seeing what they have to offer.
Thanks..
Yeah, I guess I wrote c clip eliminator but I meant the pressed axle like the Ford uses. Good tip though.
I did not know that dealing with Moser direct would be the same price, I kinda figured it would be more expensive. I will call them first now.
I have read here that some people don't think highly of Moser's assembly techniques or tolerances. What do you two think?
And for the brakes I was thinking of late model Camaro discs or contacting Baer and seeing what they have to offer.
Thanks..
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The rearend has been under the car for about six months now. I've put on maybe 500 miles. It doesn't leak or make any unusual noise (3.73s). Over the winter I intend to change the fluid so at that point I will be able to take a look inside. I can then check the gear pattern and backlash. There is one minor fault though. I noticed the bracket that supports the pass. side spring isn't level. It is tipped down maybe 5-10 degrees. Certainly this isn't critical, it wasn't worth calling them or even fixing it myself. Hopefully, there won't be other things that show up later. At this point I would still reccommend a Moser 12 bolt.
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From: Santa Monica, CA
Car: '91 Camaro RS
Engine: F1R Procharged 383
Transmission: Tremec 600
Axle/Gears: moser 12 bolt, 4.11's 33 spline axl
ive had the moser rear for about 8 months now i think....it has a few thousand miles on it and probably 40 passes at the track.....it runs great and hasnt made a peep, nothing to complain about here
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From: Santa Monica, CA
Car: '91 Camaro RS
Engine: F1R Procharged 383
Transmission: Tremec 600
Axle/Gears: moser 12 bolt, 4.11's 33 spline axl
it comes with the differential assembled and installed, but the axles are not, and you need to get the bearings pressed on...
do a search on moser 12 bolts, i think i did an entire thread about it with the installation
do a search on moser 12 bolts, i think i did an entire thread about it with the installation
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