Anyone know the difference of a 2nd gen camaro/firebird 4-speed to an early camaro/firebird 4-speed? as in the whole setup? i really need help on this, i think not many people on this board know much about it even tho 4-speeds did come in 3rd gens....one year if i remember correctly.(1982) Thanks in advance for any help!

 

what are you talking about? 2nd gen f body 4 speeds compared to a 1st gen (early as you say) 4 speed?

 

I think he means the 3rd gen saginaw tranny.

 

The 2nd gen T-10s won't fit these cars without some work since they have no torque arm mount. The ONLY T-10 that will bolt directly in, is the one out of a 82, and then only with all of its ancillary pieces such as bell housing, clutch linkage, shifter, torque arm mount, etc.

If you use an aftermarket torque arm, you may be able to use an earlier one. I can't imagine using one of the adapters for the stock torque arm though, since it would have to go RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE of the shifter body.

 

well i plan on eliminating the torque arm anyways. with ladder bars. will i need pedals from the 3rd gen camaro, and all the linkage ect. from the 82 or will the 2nd gen work?