if u take a V-6 t-5 and swap all the internal parts froma V-8 and swap all other parts wud that work??? also, cud u put WC parts in a non WC tranny?

 

1) Yes.

2) https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=250323

 

Let me elaborate on #1 a bit:

How to turn a 6-cyl trans into a V8 trans, 2 options:

Option 1

• Obtain 6-cyl trans
• Obtain V8 trans
• Disassemble both transmissions
• Put v8 guts in case from 6-cyl which is identical to V8 case
• Throw away/give away/sell 6-cyl guts and extra case

Option 2

• Obtain 6-cyl trans
• Obtain V8 trans
• Put V8 trans in car
• Throw away/give away/sell entire 6-cyl trans

Now, examining option 2 a little more closely, I think you'll see that steps 1 & 4 are unnecessary. In other words, if you want a V8 trans, don't even touch a 6-cyl one anywhere in the process. And, upon examinig option 1, I think you'll see that it has no merit whatsoever over option 2, unless the case of your V8 trans is damaged (like a broken-off ear or something).

 

Man easy way like I have said before get the gears and the guts you were gonna get inout and output shaft and throw it in there it will work there is no diff the WC and NWC people besides the INTERNALS

 

ya well im just gonna wait and see what im gonna do. i dont plan on building up my V-6 tranny, i actually need to build up a NON-WC V-8 t-5 and im gonna hve all the WC parts to do it so i was just wondering if it would work.

 

2nd design parts won't go in a 1st design trans. Absolutely nothing internal that amounts to anything will swap over.

So, here's another quick guide on how to turn a 1st design trans into a trans with 2nd design parts, 2 easy steps:

• Throw away 1st design trans
• Buy & install 2nd design trans
• Done!

Externally they fit the same; the 2nd design will bolt right into an older car with no modification of anything whatsever. Internally, nothing of any consequence interchanges.

 

if by 1st design u meen prior to 84' and 2nd 85'+ then thats not what im talkin bout the tranny i got is from and 86' or 87' and the WC parts are from around the same year. i know the WC parts wont go into an old tranny, im askin if in the newer ones the parts wud interchange?? and i dont meen by just one or 2 parts...i meen everylast thing in it, to where the only original thing is the case and nothing else.

 

The 2nd design is what B-W borrowed the One-Minute Manager PIT Team 6-Sigma Total Quality Mgmt ISO-9000 uzzword and called "Wo...... worl...." {puuuuuuuuukkkke} sorry, I can't even type it, much less say it.... but I think you know what I mean. Used from 88 up in these particular cars, other years in some other cars. The older kind is the 1st design. But the exact year model is irrelevant; 1st design parts are what they are, and 2nd design parts are what they are.

One more time: NOTHING interchanges between the 2 designs. Above all, not the case, it is DIFFERENT. There is no way to put the 2nd design moving parts into a 1st design case, or vice-versa.

 

well y is it when u look at the 2 cases the 2 of them are exactly identical?? so if the cases are the same then y wudnt the parts interchange?? if case is same then i wud imagine everything will go right in.

 

They won't. The cases look identical to you only because you're looking at the outside of them, not the inside.

The main reason is, the 1st design uses straight rollers on the countergear (in fact the rear one is the same part # as an axle bearing for a 10-bolt), where the 2nd design uses tapered rollers with preload, and a bolt-in retainer. So everything about the case that touches the countergear is totally different.

But if you can imagine that stuff into there, go for it. I can tell you that I've rebuilt a whole bunch of these things and I'm pretty sure my own imagination isn't that powerful. Maybe you've got me beat in that department though.

 

alright well both the indie and out look identical, but im not gonna argue, i just need a V-8 T-5 (preferably WC). if you can find me one it wud be great. alright dude??:rockon: i just need a good tranny that will hold up to about 350 HP that way i can go abouts doin thanks for the info. Dave.

 

I've got some of each laying around, but they're assembled, otherwise I'd take some pics and highlight what's different. Someday maybe. People ask about this alot and never believe me. But I've got a wife and teenage kids, so I'm getting used to not a single word I say ever being believed, so it's all good.

Watch the classifieds on this site; they pop up from time to time.

 

well u got one u wanna sell me?

 

anyone else got any info??

 

ok this the only difference i found in the 2:

T5: Has cylindrical roller bearings supporting the cluster gear. All 5 synchro rings are brass. T body GM cars have a smaller Front Countershaft bearing.

and...

W/C T5: Has tapered bearings supporting the cluster gear. 1st/2nd synchro rings are a 3-piece design, 3rd/4th are lined steel and 5th is brass.

so cudnt i just swap out bearings?

 

ok some more info... http://garage-scene.home.att.net/t5_...dentifying.htm so does all that meen that i cud make the WC parts go in a non WC case and also have it work?