'82 IS a Super T10? Are you sure? I never knew for sure, but I thought it was just a regular T10, not a Super T10.

And yes, Super T10s did have aluminum cases. I know because I saw one bolted to my 350 when it was pulled out of a '79 Camaro Z28. It had a factory Super T10 bolted to it, and it was aluminum. I'd have taken that too, but it was sold to someone else before I bought the engine it was still bolted to!

 

Yes..'82's had Super T10's.I still have a bellhousing from mine for sale???z bar and clutch linkage rods also??

 

Yeah, GM apps for T-10 were Super 1975 and newer.

I don't post much unless I'm sure

 

'74 cars got the Super T-10 too. I had a '74 Nova SS that came factory with a 350 4-barrel and a Super T-10, which had an aluminum case.

Not sure about older than that. I know Muncies ran up until '72. My guess is that '73 was a changeover year, and that cars could have had either the Muncie or the Super T-10 depending on what was in stock when the car rolled down the line.

Ultimately I think you'll be plenty happy with the T-5. If you ever want more it'll be simple to swap in a T-56 too.

 

AWESOME!!! Now I have to 'adjust' my info under my avatar

I always thought it was just a T10 though, once GM needed torque arm holes, and all before that were Super T10s (ie. 2ndgens).

Learn something new everyday I guess!

 

The RPO on my build sheet is M24 and I do have the B/W Super T-10, but I recently got my hands on a copy of the build sheet for an 82' MR MSE with an RPO of MM4 for the 4-speed tranny.

I have a pic of the interior of the same car and it has reverse left & up just like mine.

So, M24 or MM4 ? my build sheet is the original and the MSE is from PHS.


"Four on the Floor" if I had to explain you would'nt understand

 

IIRC, M24 was the RPO for the trans itself, and MM4 was just for all the equipment that goes with it. Any original manual trans car should have both RPOs.
Its the same way for the T5 cars.

 

clearing the cobwebs from the brain, M24 is whats on my build sheet and mm4 is whats on the copy of the "window sticker" for the 82 MSE.

MM4 is not on my build sheet, gotta get the package from PHS and see whats on the window sticker for my 82.

 

Left and up? As in, stick goes left then up for reverse yes? Weird, my ST10 goes left and down, and what a who'er it is getting it to 'click' into R.

 

Left and up, I go into 1st then 2nd before going into reverse. works every time

here is a pic of my shift badge.

 

Shift 1st and then reverse at the least. This lines everything up in the trans, and it goes into reverse with no problem. Most transmissions, with the only possible exception being the T56, don't have a synchronized reverse gear. That's why you need to put it into a forward gear first. Old Muncies will grind like there's no tomorrow if you don't put them in 1st gear before trying to shift into reverse. Most people don't seem to know this, because every Muncie I've rebuilt has needed a new reverse gear and a new reverse idler gear. The wear is usually more severe than a T5, though I put plenty of new reverse gears in them over the years too. Take that extra second when first starting off. Your trans will thank you.

 

Ok, I have my ST10 hanging on the engine stand right now. Its bolted to the bellhousing and has the shifter hooked up and working. I'm in the middle of cleaning it up on the outside right now.

Does anyone want pics of anything? Lemme know, and I'll see what I can do.

 

I have another question... I read somewhere that the T10 had two different gear ratios in '82 in the F-body cars. One had a 3.4X first gear, the other had a 2.88 first gear. The other gears were spaced a little differently too.

How can I tell which one I have?

 

The simpest way is to pull the side cover and count the gear teeth. Divide the number of teeth on the speed gear by the number on the countershaft gear and that's your gear ratio. 1st gear is the one closest to the tailshaft, then 2nd, 3rd, and 4th is the input shaft, but that'll always be 1:1 in a non-overdrive 4-speed.

 

Thanks for the info... I was hoping I wouldn't have to do that though, lol

Theres no markings/stampings/castings on the case that will tell me which one I have is there?

 

Some info...not sure if it solves anything

The LG4 had manual trans gear ratios of 3.42(1),2.28(2),1.45(3),1.00(4), and 3.51(R)

The LU5 had manual trans gear ratios of 2.88(1),1.91(2),1.33(3),1.00(4), and 2.78(R)

Both with a 3.23 rear axle gear ratio

(nothing stating Super T10 or Saginaw trans..just 4 speed manual)

Engine: Base engine was LG4 305 w/ 4 barrel Quadrajet. Dual exhaust. LU5 165 bhp Twin TBI optional. LU5 came with functional cowl induction.

Transmission: 4 speed (RPO MM4) w/ 3.42:1 low standard. TH-200c (RPO MX1) automatic optional. Mandatory for LU5 until midyear when MM4 4 speed with 2.88 low became available.

Clutch: 10.34 inches

Found this info at:

http://www.iroczone.com/specs/camaro/camaro82.html

Now in the 1982 Camaro restoration package I recieved from GM I find:

2 Manual Trans codes listed: M24 , M26

Engine Vin code H was available with either MV9 (auto) or M24 (4 speed)

Engine Vin code 7 was available with only MV9 (auto)..but according to the info above the 4 speed with 2.88 low became available mid year.

Transmission assembly codes can be found on the trans (?..not too sure..been awhile since I found mine) but the codes are M24 = UA,
while M26 = RA

On my original invoice I got from GM awhile back the RPO for the Super T10 is FMM4 which denotes Four-Speed Manual Transmission at N/C (no charge).I have ran the numbers on my trans and it is numbers matching to my cars vin.So I would be willing to guess the T10 RPO is FMM4.

From this I would say LG4 cars had the lower first gear trans..and LU5 had the higher (duh).Mine was an LG4 car and when I had the trans rebuilt years ago I had the guy verify the ratios for my own curiosity and I have the 3.42 first gear trans.Now did the LU5 cars get the 2.88 first gear trans only?We need some guys with LU5 4 speed cars to chime in.Or was it a mid year change for whatever reason GM found?..your guess is as good as mine.But as stated above...the only sure fire way to know what you really have..pull the side cover and start counting.Just wanted to post some info that may help someway.

 

Another great source of ST10 info:

http://fiedlerh.home.att.net/BW.htm

 

Thats actually where I found out about the two different gear sets for the T10 in the first place!

I know my T10 setup came from an '82 TA with the LG4 engine. So judging by that, I guess that means I have the 3.42-geared trans?

 

I would have to say yes.