how much power loss?
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Car: 1993 Nissan 240sx
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Transmission: 5 spd
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how much power loss?
Ok the search feature isnt working for me right now, so I read through a bunch of old posts and didnt find anything. What I am wondering is, how much power does my slushbox rob? Are we talking like ten percent or fifty?
My dad insists it's no more than twenty, mechanics I have talked to say it's no less than thirty... Neither seem correct to me.
So what is it? and what qtr times would a given vehicle run with an auto versus a stick?
stock '86 model tranny.
My dad insists it's no more than twenty, mechanics I have talked to say it's no less than thirty... Neither seem correct to me.
So what is it? and what qtr times would a given vehicle run with an auto versus a stick?
stock '86 model tranny.
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I spoke with a dyno operator from ohio and he gave me some info. He claims that f-body's and vette's w 700r4 lose 22-23 % going from flywheel to rearwheel dyno. He also claimed that the stick cars only lose 14-15%.
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From my old records with the G-Tech my time improved swaping to a t-5. But one thing to remember it's much harder to get a good launch with a stick then with a auto!
here's two runs for comparing
0-60
Auto---T-5
5.5---5.35
5.53---5.3
1/4mile
Auto---T-5
14.14@102.7---14.05@104.8
14.08@102.7---13.91@104.8
here's two runs for comparing
0-60
Auto---T-5
5.5---5.35
5.53---5.3
1/4mile
Auto---T-5
14.14@102.7---14.05@104.8
14.08@102.7---13.91@104.8
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Car: 1993 Nissan 240sx
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Transmission: 5 spd
Axle/Gears: 4.08 VLSD
Thanks. i figure between the better shifts, and the better launch, I'll be about even.
You guys have no idea how long I debated whether to buy another stick, or get an auto...
You guys have no idea how long I debated whether to buy another stick, or get an auto...
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and again it is only guidline
even more so bein that trannies do not rob horsepower in a % manner
think of it this way
if lets say on a big semi the tranny robs 30% (using the % theory)
and that truck lets say puts out 1000lbs/ft
he is now puttin 700lbs/ft to the ground
but lets take that same tranny and put it on cheap *** car that makes 100lbs/ft
are you going to tell me it only now takes 30lbs/ft and leaves that same car with 70lbs/ft
so on one car eats 300lbs/ft and the other it eats only 30lbs/ft
I don't buy that
even more so if theyh are opperating in the same rpm range
even more so bein that trannies do not rob horsepower in a % manner
think of it this way
if lets say on a big semi the tranny robs 30% (using the % theory)
and that truck lets say puts out 1000lbs/ft
he is now puttin 700lbs/ft to the ground
but lets take that same tranny and put it on cheap *** car that makes 100lbs/ft
are you going to tell me it only now takes 30lbs/ft and leaves that same car with 70lbs/ft
so on one car eats 300lbs/ft and the other it eats only 30lbs/ft
I don't buy that
even more so if theyh are opperating in the same rpm range
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From: Calgary, AB
Car: 1993 Nissan 240sx
Engine: Turbo KA24DE
Transmission: 5 spd
Axle/Gears: 4.08 VLSD
Originally posted by rx7speed
and again it is only guidline
even more so bein that trannies do not rob horsepower in a % manner
think of it this way
if lets say on a big semi the tranny robs 30% (using the % theory)
and that truck lets say puts out 1000lbs/ft
he is now puttin 700lbs/ft to the ground
but lets take that same tranny and put it on cheap *** car that makes 100lbs/ft
are you going to tell me it only now takes 30lbs/ft and leaves that same car with 70lbs/ft
so on one car eats 300lbs/ft and the other it eats only 30lbs/ft
I don't buy that
even more so if theyh are opperating in the same rpm range
and again it is only guidline
even more so bein that trannies do not rob horsepower in a % manner
think of it this way
if lets say on a big semi the tranny robs 30% (using the % theory)
and that truck lets say puts out 1000lbs/ft
he is now puttin 700lbs/ft to the ground
but lets take that same tranny and put it on cheap *** car that makes 100lbs/ft
are you going to tell me it only now takes 30lbs/ft and leaves that same car with 70lbs/ft
so on one car eats 300lbs/ft and the other it eats only 30lbs/ft
I don't buy that
even more so if theyh are opperating in the same rpm range
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