9 Bolt
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9 Bolt
Were all 9 bolts posi, and did the 9 bolt come in the 91 RS wit a 3.1. if it was an option what do i look for to find out if i have one, is it as easy as looking at the rear end cover and counting the bolts or is there a code on the rearend
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From: Mercedes Norte, Heredia, Costa Rica
Car: 1984 Z28 Hardtop
Engine: 383 Carb
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.54 Dana 44
Look at the cover and count the bolts. If you want to know if it's posi, or what ratio it is, the only sure way to know is to pull the cover off and look.
Re: 9 Bolt
Originally posted by Necro
Were all 9 bolts posi, and did the 9 bolt come in the 91 RS wit a 3.1. if it was an option what do i look for to find out if i have one, is it as easy as looking at the rear end cover and counting the bolts or is there a code on the rearend
thx
Were all 9 bolts posi, and did the 9 bolt come in the 91 RS wit a 3.1. if it was an option what do i look for to find out if i have one, is it as easy as looking at the rear end cover and counting the bolts or is there a code on the rearend
thx
Second Question....Only 10-bolts were used on 91 RS cars. Also Gm stopped installing BW 9-bolt rears in 1989.
If you have a BW 9-bolt, it is not stock and was swapped in.
Last question..Just as easy as you posted.
Last edited by DJP87Z28; Sep 3, 2005 at 03:50 PM.
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From: Springfield, MO, USA
Car: 1986 Trans Am, 1991 Firebird
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Originally posted by Nate86
I have a 9-bolt open rear.
Not all 9-bolts were posi.
I have a 9-bolt open rear.
Not all 9-bolts were posi.
Originally posted by 86TpiTransAm
Based on the information that I have, all 9 bolts that were placed in thirdgens were posi. I do suppose there could have been an "option" for a 9 bolt non-posi rear but a non-posi 9 bolt must be rare if they do exist.
Based on the information that I have, all 9 bolts that were placed in thirdgens were posi. I do suppose there could have been an "option" for a 9 bolt non-posi rear but a non-posi 9 bolt must be rare if they do exist.
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Car: 1986 Trans Am, 1991 Firebird
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Originally posted by JERRYWHO
All the open ones have been drum brake and 3.27 gears in 1985 cars.
Jerry
All the open ones have been drum brake and 3.27 gears in 1985 cars.
Jerry
Originally posted by 86TpiTransAm
Maybe that's why I was unaware of them. So I guess it's probably safe to say that ALL 9 bolt rears with DISC brakes were posi from the factory.
Maybe that's why I was unaware of them. So I guess it's probably safe to say that ALL 9 bolt rears with DISC brakes were posi from the factory.
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Originally posted by JERRYWHO
My local Pick a part right now has 4 cars with 9 bolts, 2 posi and 2 open. All the open ones have been drum brake and 3.27 gears in 1985 cars. One other liitle known fact is the drum brake 1985 axle has a larger Dia. O.D. on the axle and a Disc brake rotor will not fit on it.
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My local Pick a part right now has 4 cars with 9 bolts, 2 posi and 2 open. All the open ones have been drum brake and 3.27 gears in 1985 cars. One other liitle known fact is the drum brake 1985 axle has a larger Dia. O.D. on the axle and a Disc brake rotor will not fit on it.
Jerry
Time for a 9".

EDIT: Mine is a opne 9-bolt with 3.08 gears and aluminum drums. Exactly as it came from the factory.
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Car: 89 IROC Z28
Engine: 357 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Posi
"If you want to know if it's posi, or what ratio it is, the only sure way to know is to pull the cover off and look."
I have an 89 10 bolt rear end. I'm sure it's a POSI because when I burn rubber I leave tracks from both tires. I'm not sure what gears I have though.
I have an 89 10 bolt rear end. I'm sure it's a POSI because when I burn rubber I leave tracks from both tires. I'm not sure what gears I have though.
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Re: power
Originally posted by cam406406
what kind of power can you put through a 9 bolt
what kind of power can you put through a 9 bolt
Honestly, the 9-bolt seems like too costly a rear end because the parts are hard to find and anything you can find for them are bound to be used already. Plus, I know that if your 9-bolt came with anything numerically lower than 3.27 gears you have to get a 3-series carrier to fit numerically higher gears in. Not much aftermarket support for this rear, either.
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From: Yellowknife, NWT, Canada
Car: 84 Z28
Engine: 357
Transmission: TH-350C
Axle/Gears: 3.43
The 91 Rs came from the factory with 3.42s on the manual and 3.23s on the auto.
G80 is the code you would look for on the RPO list usually under the console lid. Other ways are to look for a metal tag hanging off of the diff cover saying BS about using limited slip fluid. and another not so great way to tell is to jack up the back and spin a tire, if they both rotate the same way you may have a posi.
Only way to know 100% is to just pull the cover, the fluids probably long past due for a change anyways.
G80 is the code you would look for on the RPO list usually under the console lid. Other ways are to look for a metal tag hanging off of the diff cover saying BS about using limited slip fluid. and another not so great way to tell is to jack up the back and spin a tire, if they both rotate the same way you may have a posi.
Only way to know 100% is to just pull the cover, the fluids probably long past due for a change anyways.
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I will tell you what I know about my 82 with the Iron Duke. It is still stock, 9 bolt I believe, with posi and 3:23 gears. This car is pure stock with no options so why did I get this rear end, it also has the aluminum drums. I think I have all the info listed above right so feel free to correct me if I am wrong, when I peel out both rear tires spin.
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You're right, sorry I just went outside in the cold and counted and it is infact a ten bolt. First time I ever looked at the rear end and the cover looks a little rusty. It is still a posi with aluminum drums and the 3:23 gears. My bad
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From: Yellowknife, NWT, Canada
Car: 84 Z28
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Yes it could still be a posi, just the 10bolt version. 3.42s came from the factory with the manual trans. Im guessing its had a carrier swap somewhere in its life.
How exactly do you roast both tires with 70HP and 100lb torque? lol
How exactly do you roast both tires with 70HP and 100lb torque? lol
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Originally posted by 84z28350
Yes it could still be a posi, just the 10bolt version. 3.42s came from the factory with the manual trans. Im guessing its had a carrier swap somewhere in its life.
How exactly do you roast both tires with 70HP and 100lb torque? lol
Yes it could still be a posi, just the 10bolt version. 3.42s came from the factory with the manual trans. Im guessing its had a carrier swap somewhere in its life.
How exactly do you roast both tires with 70HP and 100lb torque? lol
ROLMFAO
And it's 90 hp

The rear end is stock, believe me, I think it's the limited slip but it is still posi none the less.
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Hmmm is strong the right word? 
So why did you guys bring up a dead thread with a question not even related to the original post...

So why did you guys bring up a dead thread with a question not even related to the original post...
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Originally posted by jandl22
when I peel out both rear tires spin.
when I peel out both rear tires spin.
My stock LG4 in my TA would spin both tires on gravel and it was an open rear. But it wouldn't spin them on pavement till I installed the 3:73's with the darn Gov-Loc.
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I have a rear end out of a 89 Iroc with disc brakes and posi (I think it may be in need for a overhaul). But I was wondering if my rear end is a 9 bolt or 10 and did GM put 10 bolts on camaro's in 89? I have read about 9 bolts and they are a lot of trouble to overhaul or install gears.
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Originally posted by DF'sCamaro
I have read about 9 bolts and they are a lot of trouble to overhaul or install gears.
I have read about 9 bolts and they are a lot of trouble to overhaul or install gears.
EDIT: Sorry, more money to rebuild is what I meant.
Last edited by my3rdgen; Nov 20, 2005 at 11:57 PM.
If you don't abuse or do anything dumb you should never need a new rear or replacement parts for a 9 or 10-bolt. I only went from a 10 to a 9-bolt for the improved rear brakes on a 1989.
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Originally posted by DJP87Z28
If you don't abuse or do anything dumb you should never need a new rear or replacement parts for a 9 or 10-bolt.
If you don't abuse or do anything dumb you should never need a new rear or replacement parts for a 9 or 10-bolt.
Or, bolting up a set of drag radials and a good short torque arm and pretending you are John Force? lol!!
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