Need Help with 4L60e transmission install
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From: Triangle NC
Car: 82 Ponitac Firebird
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 4L60e/TCI TCU
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Originally posted by 82knightrider
Can you still get it rebuit for free at aamco
Can you still get it rebuit for free at aamco
My orginal plan was to find a buyer, then take the car to AAMCO and have it check out. If there was any problems with it, then it would have been rebuild. So somebody could have had a new 200c pretty cheap. But there was no takers, so its water under the bridge.
I would also like to note, that the AAMCO lifetime warrenty requires that the transmission is check by AAMCO every year in the aniversery rebuild mouth. Since I didn't find a buyer back in Setember, I missed the checkup requirement back in Oct. because I had already decided to replace it. So when the new 4L60e went in last week, the lifetime warrenty on the 200c was dead!
Last edited by BruceEmbry; Jan 8, 2006 at 12:35 PM.
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From: Triangle NC
Car: 82 Ponitac Firebird
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 4L60e/TCI TCU
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Part Lists
Required Parts to convert from 200c to 4L60e Transmission
Item
Part Number
Description
Source
1
12497318
4L60e Transmission
GM Performance Parts
2
TCI-377000
TCI TCU Controller
Summit
3
RPC-250-1223
Electronic Cruise Control Kit
Summit
4
CABLE-X Speedometer drive unit
Bowtie Overdrive Best price.
5
9802-Auto
Tailshaft Housing, 98-02 Camaro/Firebird, w/Automatic
Trans Am Creations USA (305) 769-0985
6
Torque Arm
From any Fbody with 700r4
Hawks Thirdgen
7
Alu Drive Shaft
From any Fbody with 700r4
Hawks Thirdgen
8
LS14L60EXMB
LSX Swap – 4L60e Trans Cross-member
Spohn
9
15723359
Trans Inspection Cover
GM Parts
10
10269129
Torque Arm Bracket outer
GM Parts
11
10269131
Torque Arm Bracket inner
GM Parts
12
10262319
Exhaust Hanger Bracket
GM Parts
13
10270117
L-Shape Exhaust Hanger
GM Parts
14
10278608
Transmission Cooling Line
GM Parts
15
10278606
Transmission Cooling Line
GM Parts
16
?
Other Transmission Cooling Line parts
Reference V6 on 2002 F-body.
17
Slip Yoke
GM Parts
18
Universals
GM Parts
19
Dip Stick
GM Parts
20
Various Hardware bolts, nuts as required.
Various Sorces
21
Shifter Modification
700r4 shifter from ~1990 Camaro
Remove detent bracket and install on original auto shifter.
22
Modification of TCI TCU harness
Wire, 2 relays etc needed for modification of control harness
To mount TCU onto the ECM, the TCU harness must be extended 20 inches.
23
Small Starter
Required to prevent modification to transmission and inspection cover
Autozone
Shifter conversion, please see above notes about shifter. There is no need to purchase new cables, brackets etc. All you need is a 700r4 shifter out of a Camaro, a Dremal tool, drill, and drill bits.
Performance, very fast up and down shifts. Chirping wheels going from first to second and second to third.
Final electroinc system interface diagram
Item
Part Number
Description
Source
1
12497318
4L60e Transmission
GM Performance Parts
2
TCI-377000
TCI TCU Controller
Summit
3
RPC-250-1223
Electronic Cruise Control Kit
Summit
4
CABLE-X Speedometer drive unit
Bowtie Overdrive Best price.
5
9802-Auto
Tailshaft Housing, 98-02 Camaro/Firebird, w/Automatic
Trans Am Creations USA (305) 769-0985
6
Torque Arm
From any Fbody with 700r4
Hawks Thirdgen
7
Alu Drive Shaft
From any Fbody with 700r4
Hawks Thirdgen
8
LS14L60EXMB
LSX Swap – 4L60e Trans Cross-member
Spohn
9
15723359
Trans Inspection Cover
GM Parts
10
10269129
Torque Arm Bracket outer
GM Parts
11
10269131
Torque Arm Bracket inner
GM Parts
12
10262319
Exhaust Hanger Bracket
GM Parts
13
10270117
L-Shape Exhaust Hanger
GM Parts
14
10278608
Transmission Cooling Line
GM Parts
15
10278606
Transmission Cooling Line
GM Parts
16
?
Other Transmission Cooling Line parts
Reference V6 on 2002 F-body.
17
Slip Yoke
GM Parts
18
Universals
GM Parts
19
Dip Stick
GM Parts
20
Various Hardware bolts, nuts as required.
Various Sorces
21
Shifter Modification
700r4 shifter from ~1990 Camaro
Remove detent bracket and install on original auto shifter.
22
Modification of TCI TCU harness
Wire, 2 relays etc needed for modification of control harness
To mount TCU onto the ECM, the TCU harness must be extended 20 inches.
23
Small Starter
Required to prevent modification to transmission and inspection cover
Autozone
Shifter conversion, please see above notes about shifter. There is no need to purchase new cables, brackets etc. All you need is a 700r4 shifter out of a Camaro, a Dremal tool, drill, and drill bits.
Performance, very fast up and down shifts. Chirping wheels going from first to second and second to third.
Final electroinc system interface diagram
Last edited by BruceEmbry; Jan 22, 2006 at 08:45 AM.
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From: Triangle NC
Car: 82 Ponitac Firebird
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 4L60e/TCI TCU
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Originally posted by brutalform
WOW! Talk about INFORMATION... Great Thread!
WOW! Talk about INFORMATION... Great Thread!
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 669
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From: Atlanta, GA
Car: 1982 - Z28
Engine: 350 / CCC Q-Jet
Transmission: THM-700R4
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt - 3.73
I see a lot of people doing the shifter change out instead of converting the shifter like I did.
I changed the entire set-up on my son's Camaro. If the previous owner hadn't trashed the assembly and the Steering Lock Cable in our vehicle your method would have been a much better choice. Finding an early third gen shifter assembly in good condition was a problem for us. The complete changeover to the newer style isn't a big job but it's definately a more work than your modification.
Another viable alternative is the B&M MegaShifter console mount(depending upon what the owner is after) that might be the best choice for some. If we weren't after a "STOCK" look we would have selected the MegaShifter.
Sincerely,
Kurt
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From: Triangle NC
Car: 82 Ponitac Firebird
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 4L60e/TCI TCU
Axle/Gears: 2.73
HI all,
I know this thread is almost a year old. But I thought an update was in order so the rest of you can see what I did. The end of the story is, the car has preform this past year with absolutly no transmission problems. The high output alternator went bad over the summer and had to be replace. I have put about 5000 miles on the car this past year.
Gas mileage on the highway has stayed around 27MPG. This really help a lot when the gas prices were up the past summer.
I have recently changed the insurancce company to Hagerty, full coverage with a declared value of $15,000. Must less then what I was paying USAA.
I know this thread is almost a year old. But I thought an update was in order so the rest of you can see what I did. The end of the story is, the car has preform this past year with absolutly no transmission problems. The high output alternator went bad over the summer and had to be replace. I have put about 5000 miles on the car this past year.
Gas mileage on the highway has stayed around 27MPG. This really help a lot when the gas prices were up the past summer.
I have recently changed the insurancce company to Hagerty, full coverage with a declared value of $15,000. Must less then what I was paying USAA.
Thread Starter
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Joined: Nov 2002
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From: Triangle NC
Car: 82 Ponitac Firebird
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 4L60e/TCI TCU
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Re: Need Help with 4L60e transmission install
Hi
Happy New Year 2008,
Well its been 2 years since I did the converstion and all is well. I put on about 7,000 miles this past year. Car has remained trouble free.
Happy New Year 2008,
Well its been 2 years since I did the converstion and all is well. I put on about 7,000 miles this past year. Car has remained trouble free.
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From: Triangle NC
Car: 82 Ponitac Firebird
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 4L60e/TCI TCU
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Update Feb 2010
Hi All,
Its been a few years since I created the post.
All is well, the Firebird still lives. It has a new home in Wilson NC.
I have not had any proglems with the transmission install except for one.
When cruising down the highway, the speedometer would bounce and cause the Electronic curise control to loose lock. So I have added in a Dakota Digita. SG-5 to the mix. The SG-5 has solve the problem with the curise control. Please see attached image for details on the wiring.
Its been a few years since I created the post.
All is well, the Firebird still lives. It has a new home in Wilson NC.
I have not had any proglems with the transmission install except for one.
When cruising down the highway, the speedometer would bounce and cause the Electronic curise control to loose lock. So I have added in a Dakota Digita. SG-5 to the mix. The SG-5 has solve the problem with the curise control. Please see attached image for details on the wiring.
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