PowerGlide bracket
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PowerGlide bracket
Has anyone ever swapped out a TH700R4 for a powerglide and retained the factory torque arm? If so, how do you mount the factory torque arm to the powerglide? Does anyone sell a bracket to do this?
Thanks,
Chris
Thanks,
Chris
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Car: 1984 Z28 Hardtop
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Spohn's setup replaces the factory torque arm and mounts it to the crossmember.
Usually by the time you're making enough power that a powerglide is an attractive option, you've abandoned the stock rear suspension.
Usually by the time you're making enough power that a powerglide is an attractive option, you've abandoned the stock rear suspension.
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yes i know that but item pgxm is if you have a 4-link or other rear swaps without the ta, and it sells for 115 ,or if they are useing stock rear setup there is item 318 that has the ta with it .for 395 . or you can buy a b&m mount for it also. cartall does not state what rear setup they have i just was telling him that spohn makes one . you dont have to have alot of power to run a glide as a lot of older cars came with them with stock motor and i know alot of guys around here that run them in there hobby stock stock cars
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Cartall seems to be interested in using a powerglide with a stock torque arm rather than an aftermarket rear suspension.
Sure you don't need a lot of power to run a powerglide, but unless you're dragracing, there are much nicer transmissions to use. A 2 speed powerglide doesn't really make for a fun-to-drive car.
Sure you don't need a lot of power to run a powerglide, but unless you're dragracing, there are much nicer transmissions to use. A 2 speed powerglide doesn't really make for a fun-to-drive car.
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Car: 84 Camaro
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Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt - 4.11 gears
Apeiron is right. I am interested in running a powerglide with the stock suspension setup. I have been drag racing a 84 Camaro with 355 and a TH700R4 for 3 years running 11.50's with the factory torque arm. I recently built a 422 c.i. small block and I am having tons of problems with the 700R4. I'm tired of messing with it and throwing money at the 700, so it's time to put something more reliable and consistent without having to cut up the car and without breaking my bank account. I know B&M sells a bracket to make the swap with a TH350 or 400, but I have not been able to find one that will allow the swap to a powerglide from the 700R4.
Thanks for the help and responses.
If anyone has seen just a bracket that will allow me to bolt the factory torque arm to the powerglide, please let me know.
Thanks,
Thanks for the help and responses.
If anyone has seen just a bracket that will allow me to bolt the factory torque arm to the powerglide, please let me know.
Thanks,
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From: 51°N 114°W, 3500'
Car: 87 IROC L98
Engine: 588 Alcohol BBC
Transmission: Powerglide
Axle/Gears: Ford 9"/31 spline spool/4.86
My glide only has minimal upgrades and survives very well.
Turbo spline hardened input shaft so I could still use my old torque converter.
Steel clutch hub. Aluminum is another option but it will wear out quicker. The stock cast one can easily fail and must be replaced.
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Dual seal servo piston.
Get a 1.76 low gear PG. It can be found behind a V8. The 1.82 first gear version was behind I6 engines. The gears are stronger in the V8 version. You also want a late version that doesn't have a rear pump.
The PG is a very basic tranny. It's lightweight and because there's very few moving parts inside it, it doesn't use up a lot of HP. Personally, I wouldn't want one for the street either. You'll be in high gear most of the time anyway. You only need first gear to get you moving. Back when GM was still putting them in cars, the common swap was to yank out the PG and install a TH350 for the extra gear. It was a simple swap. More gears allows the engine to stay in a powerband longer.
For drag racing, it's a great tranny. Launch in low, around mid track, shift to high. Only one shift point to screw up. with the amount of torque my engine produces, I don't need a low first gear to get the car moving. I could modify the tranny to be a high gear only but then I wouldn't have a transbrake.
Turbo spline hardened input shaft so I could still use my old torque converter.
Steel clutch hub. Aluminum is another option but it will wear out quicker. The stock cast one can easily fail and must be replaced.
Kevlar band
Dual seal servo piston.
Get a 1.76 low gear PG. It can be found behind a V8. The 1.82 first gear version was behind I6 engines. The gears are stronger in the V8 version. You also want a late version that doesn't have a rear pump.
The PG is a very basic tranny. It's lightweight and because there's very few moving parts inside it, it doesn't use up a lot of HP. Personally, I wouldn't want one for the street either. You'll be in high gear most of the time anyway. You only need first gear to get you moving. Back when GM was still putting them in cars, the common swap was to yank out the PG and install a TH350 for the extra gear. It was a simple swap. More gears allows the engine to stay in a powerband longer.
For drag racing, it's a great tranny. Launch in low, around mid track, shift to high. Only one shift point to screw up. with the amount of torque my engine produces, I don't need a low first gear to get the car moving. I could modify the tranny to be a high gear only but then I wouldn't have a transbrake.
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Re: PowerGlide bracket
would you think i should run a glide in my 89. its all steel but powered by a 357" motor with a t88 turbo. i have a th400 with a brake and a powerglide 1.76 with a brake. i just dont know if i want to take the s10 tranny and run it or put the glide in the camaro. it will be street but its a small tire car. too. so the extra tractioin from the glide could be good.
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Re: PowerGlide bracket
Be smart and get rid of your turd gen and get a real car. anything but a turd gen.
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Re: PowerGlide bracket
Installing a PG is easy but it's not a simple direct swap. The TH400 in stock trim is stronger but also heavier. A different crossmember and driveshaft slip yoke is also required.
To improve a PG you first need to replace the input shaft from glide splines to turbo splines. Just about any turbo spline aftermarket shaft will do although the 300M shaft is the strongest but a Vasco will do just as well. The cast direct clutch hub needs to be changed to a steel one. Aluminum is nicer but is also a part that isn't designed for street use. A dual seal servo piston is the last item required to make a PG stronger.
There's other stuff needed like a shift fork required for aftermarket shifters but it doesn't make the tranny stronger. Installing a tranny brake is a nice race feature but also requires a few other internal modifications.
Lastly, you should be using a 1.76 glide originally found behind a V8. The inline 6's got the 1.82 glide and the gears are much weaker. Of course they can both be improved with a set of straight cut 1.80 gears for around $1200.
I could easily build a $5000 PG without using a single factory part that can survive 2000 hp.
To improve a PG you first need to replace the input shaft from glide splines to turbo splines. Just about any turbo spline aftermarket shaft will do although the 300M shaft is the strongest but a Vasco will do just as well. The cast direct clutch hub needs to be changed to a steel one. Aluminum is nicer but is also a part that isn't designed for street use. A dual seal servo piston is the last item required to make a PG stronger.
There's other stuff needed like a shift fork required for aftermarket shifters but it doesn't make the tranny stronger. Installing a tranny brake is a nice race feature but also requires a few other internal modifications.
Lastly, you should be using a 1.76 glide originally found behind a V8. The inline 6's got the 1.82 glide and the gears are much weaker. Of course they can both be improved with a set of straight cut 1.80 gears for around $1200.
I could easily build a $5000 PG without using a single factory part that can survive 2000 hp.
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Re: PowerGlide bracket
its a jw glide. its already upgraded. was in a 1400 hp bbc with spray. just rebuilt. ive yet to run it.
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91 drag what is a real car?
arent all cars you can get in and drive real.
or are you real. i can see my car and get in
you must not be real.
hmm
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im planning on using the jegs torque arm that bolts to the trans tunnell. and a sphon tranny crossmember with the loop for a glide. proably going to get their lca with double rod ends too. the rear will be a moser 9" with 3.08 or 3.23.
it will have the same parts as my s10 .
35 spline axels and strange center section. spool.
i dont know where to get a strong enough drive shaft though. they have one good to 800 hp. i know the new block will make 1400 hp so im plannin on getting on for 1500 hp plus.
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91 drag what is a real car?
arent all cars you can get in and drive real.
or are you real. i can see my car and get in
you must not be real.
hmm
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im planning on using the jegs torque arm that bolts to the trans tunnell. and a sphon tranny crossmember with the loop for a glide. proably going to get their lca with double rod ends too. the rear will be a moser 9" with 3.08 or 3.23.
it will have the same parts as my s10 .
35 spline axels and strange center section. spool.
i dont know where to get a strong enough drive shaft though. they have one good to 800 hp. i know the new block will make 1400 hp so im plannin on getting on for 1500 hp plus.
Last edited by mattsv8_03; Nov 16, 2007 at 08:09 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Re: PowerGlide bracket
with the power level you're talking about, the jegs tq arm would be to short and mount to high. Personally, I'd look into the BMR stuff.
I'm not a glide person. I've broke to many, including some really high dollar units. -A lower first gear makes it easier to hook/control a smaller tire, as you have less instant wheel speed coming off the t-brake.
91drag, if you don't like 3rd gens, get off this board. Personally, I love the lines of a 3rdgen, so there is nothing better. I've got my bird street car which will run in the 9's on 17" tires when finished, and we have a 86 camaro 10.5 outlaw car. They also happen to be one of the fastest body styles in the factory suspension classes.
I'm not a glide person. I've broke to many, including some really high dollar units. -A lower first gear makes it easier to hook/control a smaller tire, as you have less instant wheel speed coming off the t-brake.
91drag, if you don't like 3rd gens, get off this board. Personally, I love the lines of a 3rdgen, so there is nothing better. I've got my bird street car which will run in the 9's on 17" tires when finished, and we have a 86 camaro 10.5 outlaw car. They also happen to be one of the fastest body styles in the factory suspension classes.
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Re: PowerGlide bracket
do you think the jegs arm will hit too hard? they say it provides 50 percent more transfer. i was thinking of getting the whole sphon deal. tq arm for the moser rear, the tranny crossmemer with the driveshaft loops and for a glide. my only problem was if i decided i didnt like the glide id have to get a new crossmember, and tqarm setup.
thats why i was thinking the jegs one it bolts to the floor so any tranny works.
thats why i was thinking the jegs one it bolts to the floor so any tranny works.
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Re: PowerGlide bracket
you take stuff to serious here anymore. use to if anyone brought back a almost 2 year dead thread you would bash them to. i have not been here for a while and didnt everyone had sticks shoved up their butts now. so since i no longer have a third gen i'll just stick with the other third gen site tht dont care if you flame people fore being asshats that open back up dead crap or just asshats in general so ban all you want.
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Re: PowerGlide bracket
91 drag what are you talking about.
i dont care about your opinion.
but its your opinion. do with it what you want.
i dont care about your opinion.
but its your opinion. do with it what you want.
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