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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 11:08 PM
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Sheet Metal 9 in made for 3rd Gen

I have a sheet metal 9in for a 3rd gen and have a source to produce more. Would anyone be interested in buying one and if so at what price. We may make more to sell if there is interest. We could produce bare to complete and any stage in between. With Strange parts.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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Could you explain why one would want a sheet metal rear end, vs a cast one?
I just think "sheet metal", and I think "weak like circus lemonade".....

I understand lighter, but I figured they'd crumple up like crazy.

I don't think i'm in a position to buy one, but I figured i'd start a dialogue here
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 12:46 AM
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It is sheet steel, with axle tubes fully welded to housing. Not a stamped piece like OEM.

Its a stronger piece than OEM housing

see link to similar offering. The one that I have if fully braced and is made for 3rd gen. The link is not my piece, but will give you the idea.

http://cgi.ebay.com/FORD-DIFF-HOUSIN...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 02:19 AM
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Considering most 3rd gen guys are pretty cheap don't think you would sell many unless you can offer a better product or a better price then what Moser is asking for there housing/axle package.

A real pic of your axle might help to.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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He is offering a better product. The fabricated or "star wars" housings are much stronger than the factory design units, be it made aftermarket or factory. They also hold more fluid w/o raising the level, therefore run cooler.
- The only thing I can see against it is that most people who would need that type of a high-end part are past the point of needing bolt-in.

Sonix - he's talking 9", thus there is no such thing as a cast housing.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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pics and prices? can you come anywhere close to the $1000 that moser gets for bare housing and axles package?
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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make it an inch and a half wider, and go sell a bunch on one of the 4thgen forums.... try LS1tech first.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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I will try to take pics over the weekend and see about pricing options. I dont own a digital camera.

I will try to borrow one.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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I'd love a sheetmetal housing but I just finished fabricating a narrowed diff for my back half project. Early style non tapered housing with 3" tubes. 40" wide (45" to the axle flanges). 4-link brackets installed for 26" wide frame rails. Back brace and shock mounts designed for a back brace. Big bearing axle ends. Even with the added 4-link braces across the bottom, the empty housing doesn't weigh very much.

I'm still waiting for the axles to arrive before I can call it finished. The center section and brakes/backing plates will come off the 9" that's currently under the car. I have an aluminum spool to install in it now. I'd love to get an aluminum center section some day.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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stephen, i'll take one as well, when should I trailer the car up for you to do mine as well. I'll bring the beer, you bring the knowledge.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Shagwell
He is offering a better product. The fabricated or "star wars" housings are much stronger than the factory design units, be it made aftermarket or factory. They also hold more fluid w/o raising the level, therefore run cooler.
- The only thing I can see against it is that most people who would need that type of a high-end part are past the point of needing bolt-in.

Sonix - he's talking 9", thus there is no such thing as a cast housing.
The therory behind it sounds great but until you can see a finished product, you know the welding , spring perches, lower control/torque arm mounting, housing ends you really can't say it's a better at this point.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Shagwell
He is offering a better product. The fabricated or "star wars" housings are much stronger than the factory design units, be it made aftermarket or factory. They also hold more fluid w/o raising the level, therefore run cooler.
- The only thing I can see against it is that most people who would need that type of a high-end part are past the point of needing bolt-in.

Sonix - he's talking 9", thus there is no such thing as a cast housing.
ah, you got me there... Well then how do they make a conventional 9" housing? Is it stamped? I think it's still cast isn't it? Cast steel just not iron...

Yea, I just have a hard time seeing how sheet metal (thin, weak) can be as strong as 1/4" thick steel... I guess "sheet metal" is a loose term, with it being 1/8" thick "sheet" or something.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonix
ah, you got me there... Well then how do they make a conventional 9" housing? Is it stamped? I think it's still cast isn't it? Cast steel just not iron...

Yea, I just have a hard time seeing how sheet metal (thin, weak) can be as strong as 1/4" thick steel... I guess "sheet metal" is a loose term, with it being 1/8" thick "sheet" or something.
a conventional housing is stamped steel welded together.

a fabricated housing can be built stronger.... or weaker, depending on whos making it...
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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I think plate steel is a better term.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Here's a thread on someone who built one. It's designed for a 4-link system but it shows what's involved to put one together.

http://drr.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/t...2/m/6071082472
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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that was cool. I would love to do that but lack of knowledge and faith in the rear when I was done would hold me back from trying it. also that whole procrastinating thing i have.
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