Transmissions and Drivetrain Need help with your trans? Problems with your axle?

t56 on sbc

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 18, 2008 | 10:50 AM
  #1  
TPI TERR's Avatar
Thread Starter
On Probation
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,042
Likes: 2
From: So Cal
Car: 87 IROC-Z
Engine: LsX
Transmission: MN12 6speed
Axle/Gears: 3:42
t56 on sbc

any set ups??? .. ls1 tranny on a third gen l98 sbc?
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2008 | 08:46 PM
  #2  
TPI TERR's Avatar
Thread Starter
On Probation
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,042
Likes: 2
From: So Cal
Car: 87 IROC-Z
Engine: LsX
Transmission: MN12 6speed
Axle/Gears: 3:42
Re: t56 on sbc

anyone??? im in this messed up situation i have a 87 camaro with a sbc im currently using the t5 set up.. but have a ls1 t56 awating. what can be done?
what clutch and flywheel, hydraulic set up will i be using?? whats possible?

Last edited by TPI TERR; Jan 22, 2008 at 09:12 PM.
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:14 PM
  #3  
Kevin91Z's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 10,950
Likes: 26
From: Orange, SoCal
Car: 1990 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: 355 TPI siamesed runners
Transmission: Tremec T56
Axle/Gears: 12-Bolt 3.73
Re: t56 on sbc

The LS1 tranny is slightly different. The bellhousing has one different bolt hole, and the input shaft is slightly longer. Have you done a search? I dont remember anyone using the LS1 T56 but its probably been done. Most people use the LT1 T56 or the aftermarket T56.

There is also two tech articles on this site for installing a T56. One of them is for T5 cars and the other is for automatic cars.
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:27 PM
  #4  
Codename 47's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,230
Likes: 2
From: Madison, WI
Car: 1986 Camaro Z28
Engine: 400
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt Posi 3.73
Re: t56 on sbc

Originally Posted by Kevin91Z
The LS1 tranny is slightly different. The bellhousing has one different bolt hole, and the input shaft is slightly longer. Have you done a search? I dont remember anyone using the LS1 T56 but its probably been done. Most people use the LT1 T56 or the aftermarket T56.

There is also two tech articles on this site for installing a T56. One of them is for T5 cars and the other is for automatic cars.
I think it's been done, but I'm not completely sure. You'd have to swap out a bunch of parts to get it to work. You're better off selling/trading the LS1 T56 for a LT1 T56.
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:27 PM
  #5  
TPI TERR's Avatar
Thread Starter
On Probation
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,042
Likes: 2
From: So Cal
Car: 87 IROC-Z
Engine: LsX
Transmission: MN12 6speed
Axle/Gears: 3:42
Re: t56 on sbc

im reasearching.. im only finding aftermarket bellhousings.. one is the mcleod. .. and another is the keisler...
im gettin told i cant use the ls1 hydraulics or throw out bearing..
i bought a ls1 clutch and flywheel this didnt work..
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:30 PM
  #6  
Codename 47's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,230
Likes: 2
From: Madison, WI
Car: 1986 Camaro Z28
Engine: 400
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt Posi 3.73
Re: t56 on sbc

Originally Posted by TPI TERR
im reasearching.. im only finding aftermarket bellhousings.. one is the mcleod. .. and another is the keisler...
im gettin told i cant use the ls1 hydraulics or throw out bearing..
i bought a ls1 clutch and flywheel this didnt work..
I think you need to get a different input shaft among other things. From what I've heard it's not worth the time/money. Again, it's what I've heard. I've never done it nor researched it.
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:35 PM
  #7  
TPI TERR's Avatar
Thread Starter
On Probation
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,042
Likes: 2
From: So Cal
Car: 87 IROC-Z
Engine: LsX
Transmission: MN12 6speed
Axle/Gears: 3:42
Re: t56 on sbc

im lookin around and nobody has an acurate article based on the ls1 trans mated to a sbc.. so im pretty much stuck ..
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:49 PM
  #8  
iansane's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,109
Likes: 25
From: Tacoma, Wa
Car: '91 TA vert
Engine: turboLSx
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: t56 on sbc

There are people that have done the swap. Twilightoptics on here is one. I think he's running stock style thirdgen clutch/hydraulics, LS1 trans, and a mcloed or lakewood scattershield designed for the swap. He's also using a shorter driveshaft.
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2008 | 11:00 PM
  #9  
TPI TERR's Avatar
Thread Starter
On Probation
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,042
Likes: 2
From: So Cal
Car: 87 IROC-Z
Engine: LsX
Transmission: MN12 6speed
Axle/Gears: 3:42
Re: t56 on sbc

how do they go about the abscence of the release bearing that suppose to be aorund the input shaft ??
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2008 | 11:58 PM
  #10  
iansane's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,109
Likes: 25
From: Tacoma, Wa
Car: '91 TA vert
Engine: turboLSx
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: t56 on sbc

...like I said, he runs a stock style 3rdgen clutch. Which has a clutch fork. So there is no need for a hydraulic throwout bearing.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 08:17 AM
  #11  
onebad82z's Avatar
Supreme Member
25 Year Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 2,112
Likes: 0
From: Orange County,NY
Car: 1982 Z28
Engine: 355
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt
Re: t56 on sbc

Do a search on my username, LS1 T56 to a Gen1 SBC. You can use a T5 bell and such with a LS1 trans. As mentioned IIRC Twilightoptics has done that swap.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 11:47 AM
  #12  
87zjeff's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,366
Likes: 1
From: louisville, ky
Axle/Gears: '01 3.42 10 bolt
Re: t56 on sbc

Originally Posted by onebad82z
Do a search on my username, LS1 T56 to a Gen1 SBC. You can use a T5 bell and such with a LS1 trans. As mentioned IIRC Twilightoptics has done that swap.


this requires a special adaptor plate to use the t-5 bell housing.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 09:18 PM
  #13  
TPI TERR's Avatar
Thread Starter
On Probation
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,042
Likes: 2
From: So Cal
Car: 87 IROC-Z
Engine: LsX
Transmission: MN12 6speed
Axle/Gears: 3:42
Re: t56 on sbc

im trying to avoid cuttin my driveshaft. ..

Twilightoptics signature states that he is using a T56 Spec III clutch..

not sure if that a ls1 or lt1 set up .. ..
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 09:36 PM
  #14  
iansane's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,109
Likes: 25
From: Tacoma, Wa
Car: '91 TA vert
Engine: turboLSx
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: t56 on sbc

It's an ls1 trans. Spec is the company that makes the clutch he's using and the one he has is a "Stage III"
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 09:55 PM
  #15  
TPI TERR's Avatar
Thread Starter
On Probation
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,042
Likes: 2
From: So Cal
Car: 87 IROC-Z
Engine: LsX
Transmission: MN12 6speed
Axle/Gears: 3:42
Re: t56 on sbc

yep the stage three is not for daily driven vehicle.. is he using the lt1 clucth kit or ls1?? looks as if hes using a bellhousing for the lt1 clutch and hydraulics...
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2009 | 07:15 PM
  #16  
Houlie's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
From: Spencer, MA
Car: 1987 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS
Engine: ZZ4 - 350
Transmission: 700 - r4
Axle/Gears: 3.73 posi
Re: t56 on sbc

Looking to do the same application in my 87 Monte SS w/ a GM performance ZZ4 TPI motor.......I'm like a blind flea trying to find a dog.....any help would be appreciated, thanxs
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2009 | 07:35 PM
  #17  
TPI TERR's Avatar
Thread Starter
On Probation
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,042
Likes: 2
From: So Cal
Car: 87 IROC-Z
Engine: LsX
Transmission: MN12 6speed
Axle/Gears: 3:42
Re: t56 on sbc

i used the mcleod bellhousing. check out my thread. and a t5 clutch and flyy .. i sold everything minus the clutch a flywheel and starter
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2009 | 07:35 PM
  #18  
iansane's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,109
Likes: 25
From: Tacoma, Wa
Car: '91 TA vert
Engine: turboLSx
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: t56 on sbc

Necro'd thread. No wonder I didn't remember posting in it.
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2009 | 07:51 PM
  #19  
Houlie's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
From: Spencer, MA
Car: 1987 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS
Engine: ZZ4 - 350
Transmission: 700 - r4
Axle/Gears: 3.73 posi
Re: t56 on sbc

Originally Posted by TPI TERR
i used the mcleod bellhousing. check out my thread. and a t5 clutch and flyy .. i sold everything minus the clutch a flywheel and starter
Heard a T-5 bellhousing works also, and I can imagine its a hell of alot cheaper thean the McLeod one........Just need an adapter plate

http://www.thegearbox.org/catalog/it...41.htm#image_1

And the I need a long Pilot bushing, from what I've heard so far
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2009 | 08:00 PM
  #20  
doc221978's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
From: Allenhurst, GA
Car: '81 Z-28
Engine: Soon to be a 383
Transmission: Muncie
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: t56 on sbc

Besides just the adapter plate and longer bushing, you also need to rework the crossmember, and shorten the driveshaft. Other then that it's pretty straight forward. I don't remember about the console, but if it is an issue, it would be an easy fix.
----------
Oops.... I forgot, you need either an aftermaket speedo, and adapter box (dakota digital I think), or a tailshaft modified for the gear-driven style it already has (jags that run).

Good luck, it's a great swap.

Last edited by doc221978; Jan 26, 2009 at 08:03 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Reply
Old Jan 27, 2009 | 03:20 AM
  #21  
alloy's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,296
Likes: 6
From: Vancouver, WA
Car: 87 IROC-Z28
Engine: 305 TPI-New 355 on the engine stand
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.73 Eaton posi-Soon a 9" Ford!
Re: t56 on sbc

I'm not sure where you got your information, but Jags that run hasn't done those conversions for a long time now. I think I'm one of only a few left doing that conversion.


Originally Posted by doc221978
Oops.... I forgot, you need either an aftermaket speedo, and adapter box (dakota digital I think), or a tailshaft modified for the gear-driven style it already has (jags that run).

Good luck, it's a great swap.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2013 | 02:40 PM
  #22  
Mr Pain's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
From: Premont Tx
Car: 91 camaro rs
Engine: 355 sbc
Transmission: muncie m22
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt limited slip 373's
Re: t56 on sbc

Originally Posted by doc221978
Besides just the adapter plate and longer bushing, you also need to rework the crossmember, and shorten the driveshaft. Other then that it's pretty straight forward. I don't remember about the console, but if it is an issue, it would be an easy fix.
----------
Oops.... I forgot, you need either an aftermaket speedo, and adapter box (dakota digital I think), or a tailshaft modified for the gear-driven style it already has (jags that run).

Good luck, it's a great swap.

So if you have a muncie bell and clutch and linkage...do you use the same flywheel with that adapter plate
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
MoJoe
Members Camaros
33
Feb 6, 2025 09:47 PM
Cam-aro
Camaros Wanted
2
Nov 12, 2015 03:35 PM
bigjay89gta
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
12
Oct 15, 2015 08:04 AM
meeklay812
Camaros for Sale
1
Oct 1, 2015 03:46 PM
Vincent135
Transmissions and Drivetrain
9
Sep 28, 2015 10:50 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:15 AM.