tommorrow i will start my swap, from a 700r4 to a st10. my car is a 85 iroc, any tips or comments to help me on my way? its my firts swap. any special parts that will be needed? ex. driveline, torque arm? thanks

 

Someone *just* asked this question. Scroll and find his thread and tag on. I think he might be swapping from a T5 though. The answers are the same though.

 

i cant seem to find the post?

 

wait... i think i found it?

 

First off - what did the 4-spd come out of? That will make a BIG difference in the amount of work involved.

 

it came from a 82 z28. it is 26 spline input shaft w/ 6 groovs.im not sure if i have all of the parts needed for the swap? iv got pedals, tranny-bell housing w/ fork,fly wheel, clutch,pressure plate, a coulpe of bars?,a spring? do i need a stud that screws into the side of the block-pivot ball? iv never done this....does anyone have pix of what a manual setup should look like? PLEASE HELP!!!!!!

 

Another guy was asking me to take some pictures of my setup, and i'm going to as soon as we get a warm shot here....
I gotta remember to do that...

 

thanks sonics!

 

are the manual linkage pedals different from the hydrolic pedals?

 

i acturally thiniking of doing the exact same swap.
im still undecided if i still want to do the swap or not.
by the time im finished with my car. probablyu be afew more years till its exactly what i want it should hopfully put out 700hp or more. so im not to sure if the Super T10 would hold up or if i would have mega trouble shifting into 3rd with all the Gs and getting sucked ino the seat. i heard someone that had a very hard time changing gears at the track. i might just go with a TH400. but i love the manual trans. its more enjoyable i find to drive. but since its gunna be a track car. i kinda want to have quick fast shifts.

 

Look at lefthander chassis, or at a catalog for drag/road course racers. The single most popular manual tranny is the Super T-10. It must work pretty good...
The tranny is bolted firmly to the engine, so if your engine twists and you're using a mechanical linkage then theres a chance the linkage can bind. I've had trouble pulling out of 1st gear when i'm accelerating hard sometimes. Not sure the reason, but I blame it on the powertrain shifting.
You can chain the engine down, run poly or solid motor mounts etc. I'm going to a hydraulic clutch, because the hydraulic hose can twist or move a few inches and still work completely normally.

I'm not sure about the pedals, but I *think* they are different.

 

will my 700r4 drive shaft work with my t10 swap? the reason im asking all these ?'s is because i want to make sure that i have everything lined up for a "smooth" swap. thanks all

 

No, you need the longer one. The one for a TH350, T10 and TH200C.
Ask a driveshaft shop for one for a 1982 Transam, with a T-10. Get one made up out of aluminum.
Or get one of us to measure ours, and buy a pre-made one from lefthander or the like.

 

could you measure yours?

 

Pedals are DEFINITELY different. Incompatible.

However, AFAIK the T-10 pedals were the same as the 83 T-5 pedals; so at least there's a certain number of them out there in the world.

Yes you need the pivot ball that screws into the block; although, if memory serves, it actually screws into the side of the bell housing, an inch or 2 behind the block.

You also need the bracket that goes on the frame that the other end of the "Z-bar" bolts to.

Linkage SUCKS. Hydraulic is better. I changed my car (83 T-5) to hydraulic in about 86 or 87, the VERY FIRST time I saw a hyd car in the junkyard to snag the goodies out of; one of the BEST things I ever did to it. Not sure what all would be involved in doing it with a T-10, but I don't think it would be as easy as it is with a T-5.

 

i mould like to go to hyd. but im having no luck finding a hdy brllhousing for the t10? did they make one?

 

No. You'd need the macleod bellhousing. $400 or something. Then all the stock hydraulics from these cars, including pedals.
I just simply bought the Howe hydraulic throwout bearing. $150. Then you just need the master cylinder, and some pedals of some type. You probably need to fab up some kind of mount. I haven't done mine yet.

My pivot ball screwed into the block. Right above the oil filter.

Email me and remind me tonight to measure the DS length.

 

well, i cant seem to locate parts,nor do i have the means or the $ to make this swap work. im just gonna try to trade what i have for a 5 speed swap. i have a post in the for sale section. thanks for the input guys!

 

Yeah, that's one of those deals that you just can't get in a hurry for.... you just gotta wait and wait and wait for whatever you need to show up. And there's LOTS of ways for it to be missing some one little thing somewhere that will keep it from working, that you just can't find. It's not like you can just "order" it all up and have it there next morning.

 

i totally understand that, but my trans is on its last leg and my saturn is used by my wife to run my daughter around, so my car NEEDS to be operational.