i have a t5 from an 86 z28 that from what i understand is pretty well toast, i was wondering how much it would cost to overhaul it or if its even worth it

 

Are you going to do the work yourself? The cost of parts can be found at the Hanlon website. If it is worth it is a matter of opinion and financial ability. Sounds like you have a non world class t5 so many would say to get a different tranny. I think that it is worth while if you can do the work yourself. If not a TKO starts to make more sense pretty quick.

 

Depends on what's the matter with it....

If it needs gears, it'll be cheaper to just get another one. Maybe not as quick or as easy to locate, but cheaper.

It'll also be more likely to be successful; since one of the prime reasons for them needing gears, is the case is wiped out (stretched across the front). If it has that, you can put new gears in it every week, and it'll eat em as fast as you can put em in.

What does it do that makes you want to rebuild it?

 

im just looking at it from a cost standpoint

 

Looking at what?

What's wrong with the transmission?

A "rebuild" will only fix a few certain limited things. Beyond that, if there's actually something wrong with it besides normal wear, the costs go up IN A HURRY, and depend on what has to be replaced.

What does the transmission do, that makes you want to "rebuild" it?

 

i mean between rebuilding or buying another t5 which will cost less, tools and labor are not an issue but i have a very limited budget

 

You're not making a very good listener or answerer.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE T-5 YOU HAVE???? Why do you think it needs to be "rebuilt"? What does it do?

It's IMPOSSIBLE to predict how much it would cost to "rebuild" it, until you know what parts need to be replaced. What parts need to be replaced, depends on what's wrong with it. What's wrong with it, depends on what it does. Is there something I can do to make this connection clearer?

What does the transmission do, that makes you think you want to "rebuild" it? Why are you even asking about this in the first place?

 

ok sorry for the confusion about what it does, i thought you meant what makes me want to try to rebuild it not whats wrong with it, i do not have the trans out yet however when driving it feels like there is no second gear, also the only way to get it into third without grinding is to double clutch, i was not really looking for a diagnosis of the problem, just a rough idea of if its worth tearing apart or if i should just look for another

thank you for your help

 

well, by you telling him the problem he will be able to help you decide what new parts you would need to buy.

 

I spent 950.00 on mine to have it rebuilt .... but mine needed a new cluster gearset .. If it hadn't needed that it would have been 500-575 to rebuild with just bearings and synchro's .... So it can very dramatically if the clusater gearset is damaged.

 

Sounds like a clutch problem, not a transmission problem at all.How so? Is second gear like neutral?

A junk trans costs a couple hundred dollars.

A "rebuild kit" costs almost $200; and all it has is bearings, snap rings, seals and bushings, and stuff like that. Just the "soft", or "wear", parts. No "hard" parts. No gears, no shafts, no blocker rings (unless you buy the "deluxe" ones, which are more $$$), no clutch gear bearing retainer, no sleeves, no hubs, no keys, no shift forks, no case, ..... and so on. That stuff, if you need any of it, adds up FAST, and can make a "repair" of a trashed transmission, as opposed to a "rebuild" of a merely worn-out one, cost EASILY 2 to 3 times as much as a junk transmission. But you have NO WAY of knowing what the cost will end up being, until you know what parts need to be replaced.

And worse, like I pointed out about the case; if you need that, AFAIK you can't even get a new one, except for maybe a G-Force one, which is FOR SURE not going to fit in a "limited budget". The cheapest and maybe ONLY way to get one, is to buy a junk transmission, or to buy one from somebody that already tore down a junker for you (and charges you for it...). Which brings you right back around to buying a junk transmission. Which, if you buy a junk transmission and it's good, then why take it apart and put some of its good parts and some of your old bad ones together and make one ????who knows???? kind of transmission.

I've got a shelf FULL of worthless and trashed T-5 parts. I might even have enough wasted parts to build a half-dozen of them that don't work, except I tended to throw away the soft parts like bearings, because they're totally useless to keep around. I think I've broke every part in one at least once; and some parts, more than a dozen times. That's why I quit futzing with them, and put a T-56 in my car. Got tired of it.

The problems you've described don't sound to me like your transmission needs to be "rebuilt". Nothing you have said so far makes it sound to me like there's anything wrong with it. Sounds so far like you need a clutch.

 

yes second just feels like neutral, as odd as that sounds

 

what about a t10 or an m22 4speed? anyone with one of those in their 3rd gen? from what i hear they are pretty well indestructable

 

Well if second gear is now just another neutral, it'll cost about twice as much to fix it as it will to buy a junk one. Plus, the only way for it to get like that, involves serious abuse, which will have damaged (stretched) the case, meaning no matter how you "rebuild" it, if you don't replace the case, it's doomed, and any money spent on it it is wasted.

This is, if 2nd gear REALLY IS neutral, and it doesn't pull at all. As opposed to, say, you wind it out too far in 1st and then when you shift to 2nd, it has no power and you just have to shift immediately to 3rd to actually begin accelerating the car again.

With the car sitting still, what happens if you put the shifter in 2nd and let out the clutch?

What does the fluid look like? How much metal is in it? How much noise does the trans make? What happened when it failed? How much noise, and what kind of noise, did it make when the gears shredded (if in fact they did)? What was the car (and driver) doing at the time? How many miles does it have on it, and how has the car been treated over the course of its life (hard driving, maintenance, etc.)?

 

i have no idea on the life it had or how it broke, i bought it broke it has 135000 miles, i dont know how long it has had the built 350. i can put it into second and release the clutch, get out and push the car, i checked to see if it was popping out of gear and its not, it howls a little in first but thats it, 1st 4th and 5th work fine reverse also howls a little, havent looked at the fluid yet, car is still under snow

 

Then it sounds like you should be shopping for another trans. Probably FAR cheaper and more reliable to just do that, than to try to undo whatever violence has been done to the one you have.