1986 camaro, t-56 swap, strange pedal
1986 camaro, t-56 swap, strange pedal
hey all i compleded my swap a while ago using a 1995 trans, but a question i have is that my clutch pedal lets out way at the top! this cant be normal, i used third gen pedals (from doner car) and a brand new 1995 camaro slave and master from gm performance parts. Becasue the 1995 t-56 master does not fit on the third gen pedal well i machiened the pedal down to accept the forth gen master. other than that its a brand new zoom kevlar clutch, and a used t-56 flywheel that i turned down to make it smooth again (I surfaced it on a flywheel machiene) any thoughts? any one else have this problem? any solutions?
thanks!!
frank
thanks!!
frank
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Car: '85 TA
Engine: 350 turbo
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Re: 1986 camaro, t-56 swap, strange pedal
It is normal and if you want the clutch to engage towards the bottom you need to use the 4th gen pedals, since the 3rd gen pedals have more travel. Or you could do what IRACE87 did:
Ok that is what I did on my car, I installed some third gen pedals on it and found out that the fourth gen master cylinder rod end would not engage in the clutch pedal stud, the stud was to big (and smaller if I can remember) compare to the fourth gen one.
And even if it would have worked the clutch pedal would have been A LOT higher that the brake pedal, seems that the master cylinder rod is longer that the third gen one.
Then I found myself some fourth gen pedal assembly but didn't want to use that ( not has strong and doesn't have the 2 holding rods ) found on the third gen ones.
I decided to use only the clutch pedal from the 4 gen on the 3 gen bracket but you have to have a bushing machined for the pivot point because the diameter is not the same as the 3 gen, but still didn't work because the master cylinder rod came in comflict with the bracket.
MY FINAL solution was to weld the 4 gen stud in place of the 3 gen one and relocate the bracket that is welded on the pedal so the pedal was now at the same level with the brake pedal.
And now using a MCLEOD master cylinder with adjustable rod end that allows me to move the pedal up and down to my taste :lala:
And even if it would have worked the clutch pedal would have been A LOT higher that the brake pedal, seems that the master cylinder rod is longer that the third gen one.
Then I found myself some fourth gen pedal assembly but didn't want to use that ( not has strong and doesn't have the 2 holding rods ) found on the third gen ones.
I decided to use only the clutch pedal from the 4 gen on the 3 gen bracket but you have to have a bushing machined for the pivot point because the diameter is not the same as the 3 gen, but still didn't work because the master cylinder rod came in comflict with the bracket.
MY FINAL solution was to weld the 4 gen stud in place of the 3 gen one and relocate the bracket that is welded on the pedal so the pedal was now at the same level with the brake pedal.
And now using a MCLEOD master cylinder with adjustable rod end that allows me to move the pedal up and down to my taste :lala:
Re: 1986 camaro, t-56 swap, strange pedal
so really i need an adjustable master rod? that kinda sucks i just bought that one... jeez any other suggestions? i guess as long as its engaging fully it wont slip so i dont know. i really would like to get it engaging lower.. humm... there must be other ways?
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Re: 1986 camaro, t-56 swap, strange pedal
Im runnin a rod end on my adjustable master cylinder. So I couldnt drill that out to fit it over the thridgen "peg". So I knocked it out of the thirdgen pedals, and out of the 4th gen set I was running, and welded the 4th gen stud into the thirdgen pedals. Worked great.
There are a few write ups floating around showing how to make the master cylinder rod adjustable. Its fairly easy.
I agree with what everyone else said about the thirdgen pedals being stronger. The 4th gen set allowed my firewall to flex and it was just a mess. Once you tighten up all the bolts to the pedals and the braces, it really makes a strong set up. Im glad I went with them over the 4th gen pedals.
J.
There are a few write ups floating around showing how to make the master cylinder rod adjustable. Its fairly easy.
I agree with what everyone else said about the thirdgen pedals being stronger. The 4th gen set allowed my firewall to flex and it was just a mess. Once you tighten up all the bolts to the pedals and the braces, it really makes a strong set up. Im glad I went with them over the 4th gen pedals.
J.
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