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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 09:38 AM
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pilot bearing

First time installing a pilot bearing and I have the one for the TKO 600. Is there anything I need to know in particular? One side of it in the center (where the input shaft goes in) sticks out and the other side is flush im guessing the side that sticks out faces the transmission correct? Is it just simply tapping it in the rear of the crank. Thanks for any insight.
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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Re: pilot bearing

A pilot bearing is just specific to an SBC, no to the tranny.
IT should look like a tube of copper, or a roller bearing. Sometimes they are directional (if it looks like it's been countersunk on one side, that'll be the tranny side). Then yea, just grab an impact socket of the right size and pound it in. Just that easy.
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 09:34 PM
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Re: pilot bearing

Believe it or not there is a special pilot bearing for the tko 600 I would know I had to pay 60 bucks for it! lol. I thought thats it just hammer it in but on one side the middle where the rollers are sticks out and the other is flush im not sure what way it goes.Thanks again
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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Re: pilot bearing

sonix, the TKO is derived from the t3550 which is primairly used by ford, so it has a ford pilot requiring a converion pilot bearing.

I dont remember which way i installed mine, i dont think it matters either.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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Re: pilot bearing

I'll be damned. Learn something new every day.
Then I definitely have no clue here
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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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Re: pilot bearing

Alright within the next few days I am going to install the pilot bearing so I was wondering if anyone definitly knows what way it should face when installed? or know who I can contact that would definitly know. When I bought it from fortes he said he thought it might be the side with the piece in the center sticking out toward the transmission but he wasnt 100% sure. I dont want to count on not 100% lol Ive done that to many times Thanks for the help.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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Re: pilot bearing

???
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Re: pilot bearing

Can you get a picture of it? The one I recieved with my TKO could only be put in one way. The one side fit into the crank while the other had a face that would mate to the back of the crank. I'll see if I can dig up a picture.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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Re: pilot bearing

here it is if you need more pictures let me know. See how one side has the center part sticking out and the other side doesnt at all. Not sure what way to put it. Thanks for the help.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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Re: pilot bearing

Also I got my pilot bearing from fortes because I think different people sell different pilot bearings depending on their kits for our setup. Thanks again
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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Re: pilot bearing

Alright I got to the bottom of it. I called Steve at fortes and he knew. Install it with part sticking out toward transmission and it will pretty much self align. Because the center section will move in when you tighten down the tranny if it needs to.
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 03:24 AM
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Re: pilot bearing

Bringing this back from the dead. Is the bearing in the center of the adapter bushing actually an interference fit? IOW, is it pressed in? Or does it just slide in?

Reason I ask is that I need to pull my TKO to put in a better pilot bearing + rebuild (needs new syncros). When I put mine in the only option was to use the lakewood one, which is a massive bearing assembly the size of that adapter bushing with viton lip seals and everything. It takes an s-load of torque to turn it, which over the past 40K has taken a toll on my syncros.

If the bearing above simply slides in, Id be afraid of it migrating to the rear and falling into the void behind the crank where the stock bushing normally is, leaving the input shaft unsupported.
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