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Old Sep 4, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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Transmission running hot...which tranny cooler to get?

So this past weekend i finally got around to installing an Autometer tranny temp gauge. Well on the way home from work today in stop and go it was really climbing up there and not really going down after. It topped out at 215degrees which in my book is way to hot for a tranny to get. I think its time i invested in a tranny cooler. What brand has everyone had good luck with installing? Is there one that is preferred for ease of install as well? What price could i get a decent one for?
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 05:59 AM
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Re: Transmission running hot...which tranny cooler to get?

You wasted your money on temp gage for the tranny and now you want a tanny cooler. Go for it, that tranny is way too hot it should -32 deg.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:17 AM
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Re: Transmission running hot...which tranny cooler to get?

In my book i dont see it as a waste now that i can actually see whats going on with my tranny. But thanks i wasnt asking for input on if i wasted money or not just, just what cooler to get....so u answered nothing.

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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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Re: Transmission running hot...which tranny cooler to get?

i am using a cooler that i got from advanced auto parts. lowered my temps by 15 degrees. never goes above 175 even after a long night at the track.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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Re: Transmission running hot...which tranny cooler to get?

I am running a Hayden Rapid-Cool. It's a bit more expensive than the other coolers they offer. It's more like a radiator with an actual core instead of the single tube and fins.

It's the second one down on the list. I don't have a temp guage but after the tranny rebuild and shift kit, I figured it wouldn't hurt.

http://www.haydenauto.com/products/t...il-coolers.htm
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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Re: Transmission running hot...which tranny cooler to get?

Originally Posted by 91 camaro racer
i am using a cooler that i got from advanced auto parts. lowered my temps by 15 degrees. never goes above 175 even after a long night at the track.
here is a link to mine http://www.partsamerica.com/productd...pe=895&PTSet=A

just noticed--- same one as prev. post
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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Re: Transmission running hot...which tranny cooler to get?

Mine only started to get hot in stop and go. Engine would creep up there and then come down when i would move again but the tranny would creep up there and stay up there. If im just cruising along it stays at around 150-175.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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Re: Transmission running hot...which tranny cooler to get?

Well, the transmission usees the radiator to help cool it. If your engine is running hot, your coolant in the radiator will be hot, and therefor heat the transmission as well.

Use the radiator as a pre-cooler, then through the trans cooler, and you will end up with the coolest possible fluid returning to the transmission. Unless you want to bypass the radiator all together, but you shouldn't have to. The radiator will then help heat the fluid in the winter if a daily driver.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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Car: 1988 IROC-Z camaro
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Re: Transmission running hot...which tranny cooler to get?

My engine isnt necessarily running hot, but the fan kicks on at 225 and i have the AC fan wired to a switch so generally i dont let it get that hot. If im cruising along the engine is right where it should be. It is not a daily driver but i think i still will do as you say and run it so that its going through the radiator and the tranny cooler.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:56 PM
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Re: Transmission running hot...which tranny cooler to get?

Originally Posted by DJP87Z28
You wasted your money on temp gage for the tranny and now you want a tanny cooler. Go for it, that tranny is way too hot it should -32 deg.
Yeah that was stupid wasnt it. Hell why use ANY gauges? not like they are usefull or anything

You may want to try with the rad bypassed. Ive seen trannies run cooler with them bypassed, since like somone else said, the rad is just heating it up when your coolant is hot.


trans cooler with a 8-10 inch fan on it.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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Re: Transmission running hot...which tranny cooler to get?

Originally Posted by superbee
Yeah that was stupid wasnt it. Hell why use ANY gauges? not like they are usefull or anything

You may want to try with the rad bypassed. Ive seen trannies run cooler with them bypassed, since like somone else said, the rad is just heating it up when your coolant is hot.


trans cooler with a 8-10 inch fan on it.
LOL my thoughts exactly. What i was figuring is putting the tranny cooler right in front of my radiator. I have one of my fans hooked up to a switch so i can turn it on at will. Ill just position the cooler right in front of the fan that i can turn on and off.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Re: Transmission running hot...which tranny cooler to get?

You can TRY that, but im concered it wont have enough airflow after it has to suck the air past a radiator and ac condensor.

Not real familiar with the front end area of these cars, even tho i did just spend about 2 solid days of work at work r&r's heads rad ect lol.

But if there is room in the nose area or behind core support toward the bottom, see if there is a place to mount it so you can put a small fan on it.

That is if the way you want to do it wont cool it enough.


ediit- well scratch that idea on mounting it elsewhere, i forget that there was decent room in front of the condensor if i remember right so you can just slap the fan on front as a pusher ......
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Re: Transmission running hot...which tranny cooler to get?

No AC condenser anymore. PO took out all AC related items and put an AC delete pulley in. There is tones of room now for me to mount a good sized tranny cooler.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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Re: Transmission running hot...which tranny cooler to get?

This is what I feel is the best type of trans cooler, price is right @ 50.00

B&M's SuperCooler low pressure drop coolers reduce the risk of lube system failure. A controlled amount of ATF is allowed to bypass the stacked plate core, passing through a self-regulating orifice which monitors resistance to flow. Controlled by viscosity, the thicker ATF is returned directly to lube through two open bypass openings in the stacked plate core. As operating temperatures increase, more of the ATF flow is directed through the core. Resulting in a highly efficient cooling technology that combines improved protection against lube system failure with the required levels of optimal heat transfer.

http://www.byunspeed.com/product_inf...ce1e0589327772
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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Re: Transmission running hot...which tranny cooler to get?

Originally Posted by SLP-GTA
This is what I feel is the best type of trans cooler, price is right @ 50.00

B&M's SuperCooler low pressure drop coolers reduce the risk of lube system failure. A controlled amount of ATF is allowed to bypass the stacked plate core, passing through a self-regulating orifice which monitors resistance to flow. Controlled by viscosity, the thicker ATF is returned directly to lube through two open bypass openings in the stacked plate core. As operating temperatures increase, more of the ATF flow is directed through the core. Resulting in a highly efficient cooling technology that combines improved protection against lube system failure with the required levels of optimal heat transfer.

http://www.byunspeed.com/product_inf...ce1e0589327772
The only thing that bothers me about that one is that it says its fairly small. Wouldn't it be better to get the largest possible cooler?
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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Re: Transmission running hot...which tranny cooler to get?

Here's the one I use I have used it on about 5 or 6 different cars now and it does a great job.

http://www.bmracing.com/s.nl/c.72308...&category=6172
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 07:49 AM
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Re: Transmission running hot...which tranny cooler to get?

X2 on the B&M super cooler, the stack plate is the way to go, the aluminum tube and fin design is not nearly as good.
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