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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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torque bar bushing

I've found out that it's the torque bar bushing or lack thereof that is causing the bangs when I am slowing down, but autozone doesn't have one for me to purchase and the dealer keeps hanging up on me.

Does anyone know where I can get one? Thanks
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 01:47 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

Autozone should be able to get one for ya....but a schucks/checker/o'rielly auto parts, NAPA....anyone should be able to get one....but there are two different ones for torque arm....it's in the shape of a W....one with the W facing left and one with W facing right....make sure you look and order right one....I ordered mine online through I believe Energy suspension....or at least you can get a part number through them...I bought a poly urethane...better than rubber. hope that helped.....oh don't buy from dealer..they way way way overcharge..
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

a parts store can get you a stock rubber one, or you can get the aftermarket urethane one for about $20.

1984 and before was facing one way, 1985 and after was the other model. So just tell them you want the one to fit a 1990 Camaro.
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

yea go and get the poly one and get a poly trans mount to while your at it, jeg and summit have both
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

Alright, i see one on jegs for 11 bucks.

how do i install it? does it just slip on? it goes in this little square housing right? i'm pretty sure mine is missing alltogether
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

I got the Jegs one it works great, goes in the little squarebox, make sure you use alot of the polygrease, keeps the noise down...
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

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Alright, i see one on jegs for 11 bucks.

how do i install it? does it just slip on? it goes in this little square housing right? i'm pretty sure mine is missing alltogether


you will have loads of fun installing it

but yea that box will "come apart" but the bushing in it use a bunch of greese and be ready to cuss some
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 12:17 AM
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Re: torque bar bushing

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you will have loads of fun installing it

but yea that box will "come apart" but the bushing in it use a bunch of greese and be ready to cuss some
hahahahah lol! alright, cool, couldn't think of a better way to spend my weekend anyway
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 05:21 AM
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Re: torque bar bushing

Be careful not to push arm in too hard while mount is loose! I did and broke my speedo housing! Stupid Me....
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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Re: torque bar bushing

Originally Posted by kkingsrulee
Alright, i see one on jegs for 11 bucks.

how do i install it? does it just slip on? it goes in this little square housing right? i'm pretty sure mine is missing alltogether
I'd suggest that at some point you purchase a manual (taught me a lot anyway). Without relieving pressure from the rear spings, the rear end along with the torque "arm" will roll upward. A hand in the wrong place might well send you to the emergency room.

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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 07:21 AM
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Re: torque bar bushing

Just put the car on jackstands and support the rear end w/ a jack, when you install the arm make sure that the rear end is near level w the tranny, it's not that hard...
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

I'm gonna order it off of jegs, but can anyone tell me if my year has the bushing with the lips facing toward the driveshaft or away from the drive shaft?
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

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I'm gonna order it off of jegs, but can anyone tell me if my year has the bushing with the lips facing toward the driveshaft or away from the drive shaft?
For absolute verification, look.

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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

Originally Posted by JamesC
For absolute verification, look.

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i can't, the piece is missing off of my car, is there anywhere i could call that would know?
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 11:57 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

you can just look at the torque arm to see which way the w is facing.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:28 AM
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Re: torque bar bushing

It'll only go in one way match the W to the torque arm... Just looked on mine, the lip faces the rear of the car...

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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

I checked under the car today, but i don't understand which one to order because it says "with the lips facing the drive shaft or away from the drive shaft" i looked and the torque arm is on the driver's side of the differential and the torque arm bushing is near the middle of the car, near the tranny mount, so it goes from the rear diff to the middle of the car where it connects to the torque arm bushing, but how can it be facing the drive shaft if it runs parallel to it?
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

this should help ya
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 06:43 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

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this should help ya
Beat me to it. Can't be more simple than that.

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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

Originally Posted by JamesC
Beat me to it. Can't be more simple than that.

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yea im glad i copyed that pic on the link you had on the other post, id hate to go into my speal of trying to explain it with no pic again
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

ah, hell yeah, thanks alot guys, sorry for all the confusion and frustration i've set upon you
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

I got the part, unfortunately it was the wrong one, they sent me the wrong part. anyway, the instructions said i had to either drill out or cut off the rivets on the bracket, is this necessary?
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

im not sure, i had no rivits on mine when i reinstalled my trans, but i also paid someone to put the bushing on back 2 years ago on my first rebuild (that craped out in 8k miles).....when i put my new trans on all i did was unbolt the piece put it together and bolt it back together
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 04:18 AM
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Re: torque bar bushing

Bump

Anyone know? The correct part will come tuesday, should I just try to shove it in there anyway? I mean c'mon, the rivet sticks out like a millimeter or two, a little squeezing can't solve that?


BTW it was hell removing the old rubber bushing, I had to burn it to soften it up and scrape it off with a variety of exacto knives
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

Omg, it was horrible i tell you.

It's the hottest freaking day of the year here and california, and it also happens to be the day the CORRECT part comes.

That torque arm has so much tension, i had to pull and hold it as hard as i could down to fit that little bushing over it, only to find out that it's just too freaking fat. I had to take it off, do some "fabricating" to the bushing (cutting about a centimeter off the top and half a centimeter off the side with a steak knife) to fit it in.

On the upside it doesn't clunk when i downshift anymore!

and it feels like the car jumps forward when i step on it, and the tires keep chirping when i pull out.
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

its not a fun job but its will worth it, i also welded my tq arm up solid to, it really hooks up good now
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

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its not a fun job but its will worth it, i also welded my tq arm up solid to, it really hooks up good now
so you welded the torque arm to the bracket?
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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Re: torque bar bushing

no, i took flat plate steel and welded it over the tq arm, on the side facing the left, making it to where in dont flex anymore.....should of taken pics before i installed it, may crawl under and take a pic one day
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