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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 06:19 PM
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Engine: 402ci LS2
Transmission: faceplated T56
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6-Speed is in!!!!!

Got her in last wednesday. Only took me a day to pull the T5 and bolt all the T56 stuff in including the slave cylinder and SPOHN xmember! That xmember is very slick! Well, with my 3.08's... mileage is awesome and acceleration ain't bad either. Still gotta order my SLP carrier and 4.10 GM gears though. I have the Dakota Digital box waiting, but I need a VSS plugin for the T56. Where can I get one? Later

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 06:48 PM
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that's great to hear. I am picking up mine on Wed and I just got a 3.73 rear end. So it only took 1 day to install...I have a five speed as well so I hope mine goes as good as yours.

Is there anything I should look out for when doing the install, insider tips

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 07:23 PM
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You can get the vss hookup pigtail as well as the reverse light hookup at the dealer.

PLEASE!!! No one has reported there actual experience with the dakota digital box yet and a few of us would like to get one. The cyberdyne sucks!!! Tell us how it goes!!

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 07:45 PM
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Transmission: faceplated T56
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Not much to look out for during the swap. I've swapped a lot of trannies already so I was familiar. Just get the tech article off of here and follow it.


*I'll let everyone know about my luck with the Dakota piece and I'll call the dealer about that VSS hookup.

BTW-The reverse light hookup is the SAME!!

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 09:49 PM
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I thought I had said something about the Dakota Digital awhile back. It's a piece of cake to hook up. Mounted the box right underneath the radio to pick up the +12 ACC and ground. To calibrate you will need to set the switches indicated in the manual then drive the car and see what your speedometer reads compared to your actual speed, once you have that, follow the manual's instructions and set the switches to the proper setting and its done. I have had mine installed now for 3 months and have no problem at all with it, speedomoeter is now accurate to the mph I am actually driving.

Cyberdyne can kiss my big ol' white fat a s s!

Just as another side note here. Should you have any questions on installing the SGI-5 do not hesitate to call the company, they are very very very helpfull. Just like Spohn Performance, they know what customer service is.
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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 10:56 PM
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Thanks FROBOZZ!!! I appreciate that.

So there's no dials, just switches? How do you get it accurate then? What if I have 3.73's? Thanks.

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 09:23 AM
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Yeah, just like he said!

-Just hook up a ground, a 12v power, your vss input and the output to ECM, then there are like 10 little switches. They will have to be set a certain way for a starting point and then you drive your car and see how much its off compared to radar or another car. Then you divide actual mph by your mph (or other way) and then use their chart and your decimal number(from calculation) to set the 10 switches in one of the thousand ways. This will then calibrate your speedo reading and away you go.

*Instructions are all there and it should be easy! I just have to get a hookup for the T56's VSS. Later

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 04:17 PM
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So....could someone tell me where I could get one of these too? ;-)

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 04:24 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by GTA91:
Yeah, just like he said!

-Just hook up a ground, a 12v power, your vss input and the output to ECM, then there are like 10 little switches. They will have to be set a certain way for a starting point and then you drive your car and see how much its off compared to radar or another car. Then you divide actual mph by your mph (or other way) and then use their chart and your decimal number(from calculation) to set the 10 switches in one of the thousand ways. This will then calibrate your speedo reading and away you go.

*Instructions are all there and it should be easy! I just have to get a hookup for the T56's VSS. Later
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What he said

GeeTA,
You order the SGI-5 from Dakota Digital.
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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 08:20 PM
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Axle/Gears: 9" w/ 4.11's
Yeah, just go to:
http://www.dakotadigital.com
and look under "select an accessory" and then speedo interface. Just go ahead and order it then. Hope that helps ya. Later

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 09:36 PM
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Car: '86 IROC-Z/'94 Z28
Engine: 350 LT1/382 LT1
Transmission: 4L60-E/T-56
Axle/Gears: 3.45/3.42 (soon 4.10)
What about the rest of your electrical? How did you wire the reverse lock-out? The reverse light goes into the side of the T-56...OK. What, did you have a electrical speedo already? I'm getting a 5" Autometer to replace my speedo and tach...any other rerofitting info? I'm getting ready to install one myself, and fortunatly, it's in a car w/o a drivetrain (yet)...unfortunatly, it's a '86 Auto.
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Old Mar 27, 2001 | 09:08 AM
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Car: 1992 Camaro Z28
Engine: 406
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 4.10 GM 7.5 10-bolt
As far as the reverse lockout goes, I put a toggle switch in my console with a 12 volt power source. The only problem is remembering to switch it back when you are driving. I've forgot multiple times and it is easy to miss fifth gear and grind the reverse synchro. Soon the trans will pop out of reverse and require expensive repairs. My advice is to not hook up the lockout. You can overpower the lockout with a little extra effort. It is spring loaded so you will not hurt anything. You will never have to worry about missing fifth again. Your girlfriend/wife will never be able to drive your car either(she'll probably need to use two hands).

I have found that one of my unused smog equipment connectors was the same as the VSS so I cut it off and used it. I already had an electronic speedo.

I think the reverse lights are self explanitory.

If you still have cruise control, you may want to hook up the cut-off switch to the clutch pedal. Otherwise, with the cruise on, if you push in the clutch, the engine will rev up tyring to keep the car going to the set speed. No load = high rpm.

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Old Mar 27, 2001 | 12:37 PM
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If you have a cable driven speedo you might want to check out the Cable-X box. Thats what I used and it works very well. I did notice that when you running speeds over 100 the speedo is a little off but other than that it works great. I opted not to hookup my reverse lock-out. I just give it the little extra shove and it goes in. Its not a big deal and may help from some idiot taking your car. I had to help the guy at the tire shop get it in reverse .

ps. The T56 is so awesome. Best thing Ive done to my car. My poor truck gets neglected now.

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Old Mar 27, 2001 | 06:32 PM
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can somebody please help me out with the reverse light switch...I am swapping a t56 into my s-10 with a 350 tpi motor and am just looking for a quick tip so i dont have to break out the multi-meter. Thanks
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Old Mar 27, 2001 | 10:48 PM
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Just get a connector that will fit in the reverse light connector on the trans and hook it up to your existing wiring. The plug goes in the front right side of the trans.

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Old Mar 28, 2001 | 12:01 AM
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I will be brave also and toss my 700r4 and go mid eivil on my car,T-56 belongs in there!!! a guy at Dr. Sawyer's trans. shop(Norfolk,VA) told me I would need a shorter D-shaft and a custom burned PROM,is this true?? how do you think a mildly modded 5.0 HO and 3.73s compliment the 6 speed? can I aproach "warp" speeds with that .5 overdrive gear?.....for some reason i don't think I will ever need that 6th gear around here.

someday...all thirdgens will have 6-speeds!

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Old Mar 28, 2001 | 12:40 AM
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With the HO, Your not gonna need any special Prom.

or with any 3rdgen for that matter.




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Old Mar 28, 2001 | 08:15 AM
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You can use your stock driveshaft, too.

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Old Mar 29, 2001 | 06:03 PM
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i have an 82 T/A and it has the cable speedo in it where cna i get somethgin to hook it up ?
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Old Mar 29, 2001 | 07:34 PM
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Hey, Junkyarddog, Your right. Every third gen will hav a T56 someday, as for me and my friends, were all working on it. Weather were saving for it or in the process of changing them. With a modifide 350, T56 and 2.27 gears what do you think it ill get up to... HE HE HE!!!

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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 10:46 PM
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While we're on the topic of T-56 swaps I'm planning on junking my 700r4 and dropping in a 6 speed before spring. Just so I have this right, other than the obvious stuff (tranny, crossmember, reverse/cruise switches, clutch/pedal stuff, etc), the only other things I'd need to change is the VSS connector and swap the PROM for a 5-speed one, correct ?
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Old Nov 16, 2001 | 12:17 AM
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The connector for the VSS sender is a Coolant temp sensor, part number 85100 the brand is Conduct-Tite, Pep-Boys carries it and most others carry Conduct-tite as well.
As for the Dakota Digital box, get it! Works great. Just follow the directions and it's easy to calibrate. One wire on VSS goes to ground on the box along with a chassis gound. The other wire on the vss goes to the input, of the two stock wires going to the computer, I used the yellow one to output 3 and the purple one was unused, I just left it completely disconnected.
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Old Nov 16, 2001 | 09:49 AM
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what if your car has a cable driven speedo? Kevin
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Old Nov 16, 2001 | 03:56 PM
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yea is also like to know the same thing...cause my car is cable driven....y couldnt gm just have put electronic speedo's on the camaro's like they did in the frirebirds. later

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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 02:21 PM
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WOW! This is an old post of mine. Well, too bad my dam 6-spd is broken. Its been messed up since June. I didn't have it for 2montsh and I lost 6th gear for no reason. Oh well, I'mm trying to get my money back on the deal. At least he warrantied it... just gotta get the cash and find another one now
Later! BTW- That Dakota box is awesome!

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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 06:56 PM
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Are you guys talking about the tremec conversion kit ?? the one for the t-56 conversion that gm sells for $2,295.00 and bolts to the 5 speed bellhousing? im thiinkin of one as my t-5 has died.
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Old Dec 8, 2001 | 07:14 AM
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How did you get the cruise to work??? I did not hook mine back up and would like to.

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Old Dec 8, 2001 | 01:45 PM
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is anyone going to answer the question about cable driven speedos? I also would like to know if anyone has tried to swap spedo drive gears into a T-56 tail housing.... thanks

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