t56/454 flywheel?
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Car: 1987 pontiac firebird
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t56/454 flywheel?
i got an 87 firebird that currently has the 2.8 v6 and 700r4 auto trans. I got a 98 vortech 454 with the ecm and wiring harness for 1200 bucks. From a wrecked 98 Silverado 2500hd. i don't want an automatic transmission so i got a t56 manual trans, clutch and pedal assembly from 4th gen 95 camaro lt1 car for 700. i plan to drive the car like it is this summer and when i take it off the road for the winter i will start the build. rite now i am just gathering parts and info.thanx
1)alright i got a couple of questions first what kind of flywheel do i need to get?
2)is this transmission a different length then the stock transmission? if so do i need a different drive shaft and torque arm. would the ones from the 95 camaro work?
3)are there any other things i need to get to use this transmission?
1)alright i got a couple of questions first what kind of flywheel do i need to get?
2)is this transmission a different length then the stock transmission? if so do i need a different drive shaft and torque arm. would the ones from the 95 camaro work?
3)are there any other things i need to get to use this transmission?
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Car: `86 SS / `87 SS
Engine: L69 w/ TPI on top / 305 4bbl
Transmission: `95 T56 \ `88 200-4R
Re: t56/454 flywheel?
If you don't find the aftermarket 2pc seal LT1 flywheel balanced for a 454, you can get the one for an 85-down 350 and use a balance plate in between the flywheel and the crank. (they make those balance plates for 400s and 454s.)
A starter for the 153 tooth flywheel needs the in-line bolt holes in the block; should be there on a 98 block.
A starter for the 153 tooth flywheel needs the in-line bolt holes in the block; should be there on a 98 block.
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Re: t56/454 flywheel?
If you don't find the aftermarket 2pc seal LT1 flywheel balanced for a 454, you can get the one for an 85-down 350 and use a balance plate in between the flywheel and the crank. (they make those balance plates for 400s and 454s.)
A starter for the 153 tooth flywheel needs the in-line bolt holes in the block; should be there on a 98 block.
A starter for the 153 tooth flywheel needs the in-line bolt holes in the block; should be there on a 98 block.
2)so i should get a starter for a 98 silverado rite?
thanx and i have been reading different threads like online170 and MrDude_1's threads
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Car: `86 SS / `87 SS
Engine: L69 w/ TPI on top / 305 4bbl
Transmission: `95 T56 \ `88 200-4R
Re: t56/454 flywheel?
98 454 starter will be for a 168 tooth flywheel. Use one for a 95 LT1 - 153 teeth. Make sure your block has the right bolt holes for it.
http://www.google.com/products?hl=en...%20plate%20454
Looks like they're up to $60 at a few places.
http://www.google.com/products?hl=en...%20plate%20454
Looks like they're up to $60 at a few places.
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Re: t56/454 flywheel?
98 454 starter will be for a 168 tooth flywheel. Use one for a 95 LT1 - 153 teeth. Make sure your block has the right bolt holes for it.
http://www.google.com/products?hl=en...%20plate%20454
Looks like they're up to $60 at a few places.
http://www.google.com/products?hl=en...%20plate%20454
Looks like they're up to $60 at a few places.
so i get the flex plate the starter and fly wheel from the 95 camaro will work?
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Re: t56/454 flywheel?
will this work with a 98 454?
on an ebay add for one of these it says "This a 454 BBC flywheel balance plate used to enable use of a 350 standard flywheel with a BBC 454 externally balanced crankshaft. No need of purchasing an expensive 454 flywheel. Fits all two piece rear main seal crankshafts 1970 to 1990." is the 98 a two piece rear main seal or did they stop that in 1990? and what difference will the rear main seal make?
on an ebay add for one of these it says "This a 454 BBC flywheel balance plate used to enable use of a 350 standard flywheel with a BBC 454 externally balanced crankshaft. No need of purchasing an expensive 454 flywheel. Fits all two piece rear main seal crankshafts 1970 to 1990." is the 98 a two piece rear main seal or did they stop that in 1990? and what difference will the rear main seal make?
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Car: 84 Z28 / 88 Trans Am / 87 base
Engine: L69 H.O. / 468 BBC / 2.8 v6
Transmission: 89 700R4 / TH375B / 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73 open / 3.23 posi / 3.42 open
Re: t56/454 flywheel?
91 and up BBC are a 1 piece rear main seal.
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From: Leander,TX
Car: 84 Z28 / 88 Trans Am / 87 base
Engine: L69 H.O. / 468 BBC / 2.8 v6
Transmission: 89 700R4 / TH375B / 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73 open / 3.23 posi / 3.42 open
Re: t56/454 flywheel?
I'm not familiar with any balance plates being drilled for the 1 piece crank pattern, tho there may be some, I have a mark 4 block with 2 piece main which uses the same patern as the 2 piece SBC.
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Transmission: `95 T56 \ `88 200-4R
Re: t56/454 flywheel?
Unlike the small block, the flywheel to crank bolt pattern didn't change when the Mk V got 1pc rear seal.
The Mk VII got metric bolts. Yours is a Mk VI.
The Mk VII got metric bolts. Yours is a Mk VI.
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Re: t56/454 flywheel?
so your your saying that the balance plate wont bolt to it cuz it has a different bolt pattern. is there one made for the 98's bolt pattern?
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