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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 01:37 AM
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Silver *****?

A bit new to threads. Also learning more about automotive so expect little knowledge from this guy.So you're probably gonna have to spoon feed the details.
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Car: 1987 Camaro LT 2.8ltr 5Speed Manual.

I need help figuring out what these silver ***** are, I researched them on the net and looked them up on here too. Ball bearings...? I took my transmission out to install a new TOB. While taking the transmission out there was a major spill and a 5 ***** came out of the transmission. I never really noticed them until I got the TOB installed.. I have no idea what to do on this or where these ***** go!

I have the Haynes Manual but it had nothing about it.

Thanks!
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 01:56 AM
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Re: Silver *****?

They're normally referred to as check *****. They go in specific passages of the valve body at least on automatics I assume that's what we're talking about.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 02:12 AM
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Re: Silver *****?

He has a manual, not an automatic.

No idea where they fell out of the transmission?
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 02:14 AM
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Re: Silver *****?

No idea, I wasn't really paying attention when I was trying to get the transmission down. I just found them on the ground.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 02:23 AM
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Re: Silver *****?

Well since you found them outside the case it should be pretty obvious where they came from when you take the transmission back down. I don't know the T5 well enough to know offhand which bearings would use ***** instead of needles, but check the front input shaft and countershaft.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 02:33 AM
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Re: Silver *****?

Thanks! Much appreciated! :] I'll check back in when I get it finished. Er also, another quick question. Which Fluid for the Transmission? I was discussing what fluid i should be using with an employee at a parts store.(Yes I know I should've asked an Mechanic or referred to the book). He told me DOT 3 would be usable, I'm a bit sketchy on things so I'd like to know what is preferred. Thanks once again! :]
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 02:41 AM
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Re: Silver *****?

ATF for the transmission. DOT 3 is brake fluid for the clutch hydraulics.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 06:06 AM
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Re: Silver *****?

If ypu didn't take the trans apart (which you shouldn't have, there's absolutely no reason whatsoever to do so) then they're not from inside it.

Earlier you said "install a new TOB". Tell us more about this. I suspect there might be a clue in there somewhere.

Last edited by sofakingdom; Jun 23, 2011 at 08:17 AM.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 10:05 AM
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Re: Silver *****?

If the inner and outer races of the TOB separated, the ball bearings are probably from within it. I separated the halves of a Timken f-body app. one & it was ball bearings.

The 5spd has a single ball bearing under the shift lever / guide block which doesn't easily come out.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 06:43 PM
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Re: Silver *****?

If ypu didn't take the trans apart (which you shouldn't have, there's absolutely no reason whatsoever to do so) then they're not from inside it.
Never took the transmission apart to pieces. They only came out while i was removing the transmission from the vehicle.

Earlier you said "install a new TOB". Tell us more about this.
Removed the transmission from the vehicle in order to get to the throw out bearing, which was in pieces!



Old Bearing in pieces Vs. New Bearing.


If the inner and outer races of the TOB separated, the ball bearings are probably from within it. I separated the halves of a Timken f-body app. one & it was ball bearings.
For some reason I think you're right on that..
would make sense of what makes the bearing turn.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 06:44 PM
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Re: Silver *****?

Thank you everyone for contributing your help on this! The more I know the more I learn! Thanks again!
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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Re: Silver *****?

have u tried putting your transmission into different gears quickly? on some manual transmissions there are little ***** that go on the shift rail ( towards the outer part of the case) that prevent you from putting your transmission into 2 gears at once if its under high stress
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 08:20 PM
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Re: Silver *****?

Originally Posted by dvdlovesbball
have u tried putting your transmission into different gears quickly? on some manual transmissions there are little ***** that go on the shift rail ( towards the outer part of the case) that prevent you from putting your transmission into 2 gears at once if its under high stress
There's only one in the T5.
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