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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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Car: 1989 IROC
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Higher stall or not

89 Iroc 5.7 sat for over ten years got it running and now lost 3rd 4th clutch pack.I found a rebuilt 700r4 with stage 2 shift kit but doesn't come with lock up converter.Now I need to decide whether to reuse old one buy stock reman,s-10 swap or purchase aftermarket higher stall.
I plan on changing cam and heads later just wondered how drivable higher stall would be with basically stock setup.
Any ideas are appreciated
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 09:54 AM
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Transmission: 700R4 man valve body BM SHIFTER
Axle/Gears: 3.23 posi
Re: Higher stall or not

Ok rebuilder has 1800 stall for 135.00
2200 stall for 165.00
I think stock stall is around 1500 am I correct?
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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Re: Higher stall or not

Go with the higher stall, especially if you're gonna do any performance mods. The car will be fine on the street with the 2200 in stock trim. Gas mileage will suffer a bit.....but not much.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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Car: 1989 IROC
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Transmission: 700R4 man valve body BM SHIFTER
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Re: Higher stall or not

Thanks for the info.I told them I want the 2200
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 09:18 PM
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Car: 1989 IROC
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Transmission: 700R4 man valve body BM SHIFTER
Axle/Gears: 3.23 posi
Re: Higher stall or not

Ended up finding a 700r4 freshly rebuilt with a 2800 stall conveverter and manual valve body.1550 invested and i paid less than half.
2800 stall is a bit much for stock but is drivable.( installing cam/heads as money allows)
installed tranny tuesday and new B&M megashifter this evening.
Its a blast to drive!!!
Thanks to edveryone on here for info
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 10:51 PM
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Re: Higher stall or not

Good to hear it worked out.....it's nice to have your engine rev a little before you get rolling. Our cars feel so much better with a stall.
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 01:52 PM
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Car: 1989 IROC
Engine: 5.7 TPI 3"Borla exh
Transmission: 700R4 man valve body BM SHIFTER
Axle/Gears: 3.23 posi
Re: Higher stall or not

Trying to figure out lockup on this stall converter.
Apparently it is a tci manual valve body with reverse pattern.
seems like valve body only sends pressure to converter in 4th.
reason i'm wondering is because of high stall i have no engine
braking.I was thinking of using lockup with switch to get braking back for
normal driving.
Is my thinking correct
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 12:51 AM
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Re: Higher stall or not

Originally Posted by astoneburner
Trying to figure out lockup on this stall converter.
Apparently it is a tci manual valve body with reverse pattern.
seems like valve body only sends pressure to converter in 4th.
reason i'm wondering is because of high stall i have no engine
braking.I was thinking of using lockup with switch to get braking back for
normal driving.
Is my thinking correct
No engine braking is most likely the design of the valvebody. IIRC the TCI reverse valvebodies do not have engine braking. I have a stock valvebody modified with the transgo 2&3 stick only option with a 2400 - 2800 stall converter and can engine brake all day long.
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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Car: 1989 IROC
Engine: 5.7 TPI 3"Borla exh
Transmission: 700R4 man valve body BM SHIFTER
Axle/Gears: 3.23 posi
Re: Higher stall or not

Noise in converter!!!
The converter was a little noisy when first installed-mainly as it approached stall speed but now it is getting worse.also getting small flare into 3rd sounds like my converter and possibly 3-4 clutch pack bad already.
I beleive this is a tci 2800 stall converter is some noise normal or not?
Thanks
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