Transmissions and Drivetrain Need help with your trans? Problems with your axle?

Transmission Shifts Often

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 3, 2013 | 08:28 PM
  #1  
CGMorrison's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
From: Camp Lejeune, NC
Car: 1992 Z28
Engine: 355
Transmission: 700R4
Transmission Shifts Often

When I'm cruising around at a constant speed my car will shift up and down often if it's near a shift point. I notice it most around 30-35 mph and 55-60 mph. Is this something a shift kit would fix or am I way off? The transmission is the only area I haven't really touched yet so I've been itching to start building it up anyway.
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2013 | 02:38 PM
  #2  
CGMorrison's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
From: Camp Lejeune, NC
Car: 1992 Z28
Engine: 355
Transmission: 700R4
Re: Transmission Shifts Often

Supposedly it's a bad solenoid. Can anyone back that up?
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2013 | 03:12 PM
  #3  
skirkland1980's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,354
Likes: 4
From: morrow, ga
Car: 82 S10, 83 280ZX, 84 Z28
Engine: 355 smallblocks..na, 2.8 turbo
Transmission: 85:th350, 84:700R4
Axle/Gears: 85:ford9 4.85, 84:stock 3.24
Re: Transmission Shifts Often

The only solenoid in there is the torque converter lockup. Could be tv adjustment or governor.
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2013 | 04:22 PM
  #4  
vetteoz's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 7,736
Likes: 14
From: Not in Kansas anymore
Car: 82 Z28
Engine: 383 SP EFI/ 4150 TB
Transmission: T400
Axle/Gears: QP 9" 3.73
Re: Transmission Shifts Often

Originally Posted by CGMorrison
When I'm cruising around at a constant speed my car will shift up and down often if it's near a shift point. .
Is it actually shifting or is the convertor locking / unlocking?
How much do the revs change?
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2013 | 06:53 AM
  #5  
CGMorrison's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
From: Camp Lejeune, NC
Car: 1992 Z28
Engine: 355
Transmission: 700R4
Re: Transmission Shifts Often

I don't know how to tell if the torque converter is locking and locking. It jumps maybe 200-300 RPMs. I adjusted the TV cable last night. It seems to have helped a little but it didn't fix it.
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2013 | 07:22 AM
  #6  
sofakingdom's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Community Builder
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 28,031
Likes: 2,500
Car: Yes
Engine: Usually
Transmission: Sometimes
Axle/Gears: Behind me somewhere
Re: Transmission Shifts Often

http://www.tvmadeez.com/article/index.php

Learn it, live it, love it
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2013 | 09:25 PM
  #7  
CGMorrison's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
From: Camp Lejeune, NC
Car: 1992 Z28
Engine: 355
Transmission: 700R4
Re: Transmission Shifts Often

I read the article and learned a lot but I'm still not sure what's going on. Here is what I observe after setting the TV cable...

-Shifts are smooth but the RPMs stay right around 2500 when shifting.

-RPMs jump 200-300 with steady or light throttle.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2013 | 09:27 PM
  #8  
CGMorrison's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
From: Camp Lejeune, NC
Car: 1992 Z28
Engine: 355
Transmission: 700R4
Re: Transmission Shifts Often

From what I have read shifting should cause a greater RPM change than 200-300 so I'm thinking it could be the torque converter locking and unlocking. How can I verify this?
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2013 | 10:36 PM
  #9  
89trans/amGTA's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
From: ft leonardwood, missouri
Car: 1989 T/A GTA 5.7L
Engine: L89 TPI 5.7L
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: BW 9bolt 3.23s
Re: Transmission Shifts Often

i think im having the same issue... when i let off the throttle it drops rpms and then back up. or when very light throttle. so i as well could use an answer. the only time it doesnt is when accelerating. cruising or letting off the throttle the rpms fluctuate and can feel it cut and go cut and go. same issue?
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2013 | 11:14 PM
  #10  
vetteoz's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 7,736
Likes: 14
From: Not in Kansas anymore
Car: 82 Z28
Engine: 383 SP EFI/ 4150 TB
Transmission: T400
Axle/Gears: QP 9" 3.73
Re: Transmission Shifts Often

Originally Posted by CGMorrison
RPMs jump 200-300 with steady or light throttle.
From what I have read shifting should cause a greater RPM change than 200-300 so I'm thinking it could be the torque converter locking and unlocking.
As I noted above

Originally Posted by CGMorrison
How can I verify this?
Pull the connector out of drv side of trans and take a drive to see if the problem is still there.
If it doesn't happen and it worries you ,you can install a manual switch on the wire to the TCC that will prevent the lockup (controlled by the ECM ) taking place until you flick the switch.

Alternatively if you want to manually control the lockup yourself you can install the switch on a different wire
so you have full manual control of when lockup takes place
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2013 | 06:20 PM
  #11  
CGMorrison's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
From: Camp Lejeune, NC
Car: 1992 Z28
Engine: 355
Transmission: 700R4
Re: Transmission Shifts Often

That seems to be the problem. What can I do to fix this so it operates normally instead of using a switch?
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2013 | 07:05 PM
  #12  
sofakingdom's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Community Builder
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 28,031
Likes: 2,500
Car: Yes
Engine: Usually
Transmission: Sometimes
Axle/Gears: Behind me somewhere
Re: Transmission Shifts Often

THe converter lockup is controlled by the ECM. So your problem is likely to be that something is confusing the ECM.

I'd suggest starting with the TPS and MAP sensors; esp the TPS. Make sure the voltage on its "output" lead rises smoothly as the throttle is opened slowly, and doesn't fluctuate or have any sudden jumps as it moves.
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2013 | 07:20 PM
  #13  
89trans/amGTA's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
From: ft leonardwood, missouri
Car: 1989 T/A GTA 5.7L
Engine: L89 TPI 5.7L
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: BW 9bolt 3.23s
Re: Transmission Shifts Often

seems to be the TPS. i adjusted my tv cable thanks to guidance from steveo and it helped but not fully. my father in law said it was the TPS awhile back so thats got to be your problem as well.
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2013 | 06:03 PM
  #14  
CGMorrison's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
From: Camp Lejeune, NC
Car: 1992 Z28
Engine: 355
Transmission: 700R4
Re: Transmission Shifts Often

I haven't checked out the tps yet. Tomorrow if it isn't pouring all day again. But I did recently change spark plugs and after that it idled at around 700 rpms as opposed to 1000 before. The torque converter also only did it's thing a few times instead of being all over the place.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Hotrodboba400
Firebirds for Sale
3
Dec 10, 2019 07:07 PM
Nick McCardle
Firebirds for Sale
1
Sep 10, 2015 08:36 PM
angel2794
Engine Swap
11
Sep 8, 2015 06:22 PM
Hotrodboba400
Firebirds for Sale
0
Sep 2, 2015 07:28 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:45 AM.