Transmissions and Drivetrain Need help with your trans? Problems with your axle?

700r4 questions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 25, 2015 | 02:30 AM
  #1  
Towelie420's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: PHX AZ
Car: 1986 Iroc Z
Engine: 305 :(
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: stock??
700r4 questions

i have a 1986 iroc z28 305 with 700r4 auto with overdrive,

Does my tranny already have a shift kit?


What tools will I need to remove and rebuild this tranny on my own?


I think the whole issue with the transmission is fluid level. but I lost 3.4 gears and had to drive about 20 miles on 2nd gear high rpm. I figure this overheated the transmissions seals and such, I plan to buy a manual and rebuild it.

will SummitRacings 70233 Rebuild kit $300 have everything I need or will I have to find some more things for other parts that I should rebuild while doing this.

thanks for all the help.
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2015 | 02:54 AM
  #2  
Night rider327's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,535
Likes: 17
From: Bowdon, GA.
Car: 1988 Camaro
Engine: 355, 10.34:1, 249/252 @.050", IK200
Transmission: TH-400, 3500 stall 9.5" converter
Axle/Gears: Ford 9", detroit locker, 3.89 gears
Re: 700r4 questions

I'm not a trans guy but I know enough to help you some.

If your trans is stock... No it does not have a 'shift kit' in it.

Shift kits for the most part just mods the valve body by changing the fluid path, pressure, etc with stiffer spring, check ball moved, a hole drilled out, etc.

These "mods" are done to your factory valve body with the use of a new modded plate, some new springs, etc

That rebuild kit is just a drop in the bucket for the parts you need for a full rebuild. It's just the 'soft parts' gaskets, seals, and the steels and frictions.

No pump parts... The pump is the major part here.. It would be like putting new rings on your engine's pistons and keeping the same old worn oil pump

No servo, boost valve, sun gear shell etc.

Trans kits bought from summit will kill you price wise.

Check out bulkpart.com A kit about like you linked to will run around $130

They also sell "rebuilds in a box" which will give you all the needed parts for $400-600 depending on upgrades you want
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2015 | 07:24 PM
  #3  
paulo57509's Avatar
Supreme Member
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 3,178
Likes: 48
From: Tracy, CA
Car: '87 IROC
Engine: LB9
Transmission: TH700R4
Re: 700r4 questions

Originally Posted by Towelie420
i have a 1986 iroc z28 305 with 700r4 auto with overdrive,

Does my tranny already have a shift kit?
Probably not.

Originally Posted by Towelie420
What tools will I need to remove and rebuild this tranny on my own?
Basic hand tools will get the transmission out and back in the chassis.

The rest depends on how much you want to struggle using improvised tools. I don't like to struggle; I spent a lot of time collecting spring compressors, lock ring pliers, bushing drivers, a transmission jack and building a small portable work bench (so I wouldn't have to lift a 200lb. transmission all over my garage). I have a couple of cars with GM RWD overdrives so I'll get to use these tools at least once more in my lifetime.

Originally Posted by Towelie420
I think the whole issue with the transmission is fluid level. but I lost 3.4 gears and had to drive about 20 miles on 2nd gear high rpm. I figure this overheated the transmissions seals and such, I plan to buy a manual and rebuild it.
Losing 3rd and 4th is a common issue with the 700R4. The trans was toast even before you had to drive it home in manual 2nd.

I suggest you search You Tube and watch some of the rebuild videos that Hiram Gutierrez has done for the 700R4/4L60/4L60E (essentially the same trans as the 700R4). Do this as an assessment exercise if you're still thinking about DIY.

IMO, this is not a DIY for the feint of heart. Because of the tremendous amount of time, money and labor it's not something that is done half-way or with corner cutting. You definitely do not want to be R&R'ing the trans more than once or constantly dropping the pan or scratching your head wondering if you did this or that correctly if the rebuild goes south.

As far as manuals go, get one on these

ATSG General Motors THM 700-R4 Techtran Manual, 1982-1986 (4L60): Automatic Transmission Service Group: Amazon.com: Books ATSG General Motors THM 700-R4 Techtran Manual, 1982-1986 (4L60): Automatic Transmission Service Group: Amazon.com: Books


And one of these:

Amazon.com: ATSG 700-R4 Update Handbook GM Transmission Repair Manual (700R4 Transmission Rebuild Kit 700R4 Torque Converter 700R4 Shift Best Repair Book Available!): Automotive Amazon.com: ATSG 700-R4 Update Handbook GM Transmission Repair Manual (700R4 Transmission Rebuild Kit 700R4 Torque Converter 700R4 Shift Best Repair Book Available!): Automotive

Originally Posted by Towelie420
will SummitRacings 70233 Rebuild kit $300 have everything I need or will I have to find some more things for other parts that I should rebuild while doing this.

thanks for all the help.
I would get one of Dana's kits:

https://www.700r4l60e.com/store/home.php?cat=19

Don't get hung up on the price. These kits are complete. You'll be rebuilding everything from front to back. The kit contents are chosen to work together as a system and it comes with a lot of tech support.

You can also read Pro-Built's tech forum as a homework exercise:

http://www.700r4l60e.com/forum/

Factor in a new/rebuild torque converter in the price replacement parts as well.

Last edited by paulo57509; Oct 25, 2015 at 07:27 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2015 | 09:05 PM
  #4  
Towelie420's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: PHX AZ
Car: 1986 Iroc Z
Engine: 305 :(
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: stock??
Re: 700r4 questions

Paulo - I didn't have to drive in forced 2nd, it was in normal drive just would not shift.


thanks for all the help guys this will assist me greatly.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Bubbajones_ya
Cooling
24
Jul 6, 2024 08:32 PM
Vojtush31
Transmissions and Drivetrain
5
Oct 11, 2015 01:07 PM
eduardosac
Transmissions and Drivetrain
1
Sep 16, 2015 02:18 PM
Magman
Miscellaneous Third Gen Items!
0
Sep 12, 2015 11:55 PM
Stroopwafel
Tech / General Engine
7
Sep 11, 2015 06:38 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:15 PM.