reverse lock out on new t56 swap question
reverse lock out on new t56 swap question
How do hook up the reverse lock out ? I dont think the old t5 had that . Do i need this ? will it hurt my tranny with out it ?
Thanks
Dave
Thanks
Dave
Supreme Member
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 1,287
Likes: 0
From: Warsaw, Indiana
Car: 1991 Firebird
Engine: 427 LSX
Transmission: Turbo 400
Yes, you cannot get into reverse without wiring that switch. I believe that you just apply 12 volts when you want to get into reverse. You could go complex and hook it up to a speed sensor switch so when you are at say 2 mph or less the solenoid will allow reverse. I am going to hook mine to a switch on my shift handle.
Originally posted by GofasterFirebird
Yes, you cannot get into reverse without wiring that switch.
Yes, you cannot get into reverse without wiring that switch.
I think it was Ben Franklin who said "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak up and remove all doubt." Words to live by GoFasterFirebird.
Member
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 300
Likes: 0
From: Latham NY USA
Car: 91 Formula
Engine: 350
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt 3.23
Dittos to what kevinc said. I've had mine in for a couple of months now and just force it past the solenoid, it's not hurting anything. Actually I prefer it that way, you have to make it a conscious effort, there is no doing it by accident.
Supreme Member
iTrader: (7)
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 2,047
Likes: 2
From: Prince George, BC, Canada
Car: 89 GTA
Engine: 5.7L Supercharged
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser 9" 3.70
Is there a way we can take the solenoid apart? last time I looked at mine was a year ago (still in the garage) but I thought it could be done, what do you guys think?
Member
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 300
Likes: 0
From: Latham NY USA
Car: 91 Formula
Engine: 350
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt 3.23
Take the solenoid apart? If you mean remove it I'd say very bad idea. I would imagine accidentaly hitting reverse at those speeds would be very bad for the tranny
Trending Topics
When I hooked up my solenoid I solderd a wire to the back of the cigarette lighter. Then ran the wire down inside the consol, through the shifter and to the solenoid. Its easier than running a wire all the way to the fusebox, and its still protected by a fuse.
Supreme Member
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 1,287
Likes: 0
From: Warsaw, Indiana
Car: 1991 Firebird
Engine: 427 LSX
Transmission: Turbo 400
Ahh yes, I guess you can just force it past. I tried it on my new aftermarket one and I didn't apply that much effort. Now that I moved the solenoid once it seems easier. Kevinc, I appreciate the salt in the wound. Just b/c my car is faster doesn't mean you should condemn me for that.
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 10,950
Likes: 26
From: Orange, SoCal
Car: 1990 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: 355 TPI siamesed runners
Transmission: Tremec T56
Axle/Gears: 12-Bolt 3.73
I'm gonna wire mine to my brake switch, so I can only shift to reverse when the brake is applied. I've already got a button on my shifter that goes to my line lock.
Supreme Member
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 1,287
Likes: 0
From: Warsaw, Indiana
Car: 1991 Firebird
Engine: 427 LSX
Transmission: Turbo 400
What amount of time can the solenoid be on before failure? I am asking what the duty cycle of that solenoid is. I am thinking that maybe a brake switch will allow it to stay on too long. Just a possibility..
Supreme Member
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,411
Likes: 3
From: Rock Hill, SC
Car: 1999 Pontiac T/A Firehawk
Engine: ***'s Engine
Transmission: T56
I don't know what the duty cycle is, but in stock apps it is on any time the car is below 5mph on the speedometer. I plan on finding a way to hook it into the VSS somehow.
Member
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
From: Saugerties, NY, USA
Car: '89 Formula
Engine: 355 TPI
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9 bolt.
Wired mine to the Hurst T-handle switch along with the line lock (see Kevin91Z) - I just hit the button for either line lock or reverse... I'm never doing the same thing at the same time so it works for me.
t56 lock out
i am just leaving it for now as i have alot of other stuff to do on the car eventually i will hook it up to a button . I dont see how any one could shift into reverse accidentally. you really have to push it over and up.
Supreme Member
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,411
Likes: 3
From: Rock Hill, SC
Car: 1999 Pontiac T/A Firehawk
Engine: ***'s Engine
Transmission: T56
I don't see how you could hit reverse accidently if you leave the RLS completely disabled either. What we were discussing was what you have to worry about when coming up with a scheme to turn the RLS on and off.
Since I will have easy access to the VSS signal in my car, it's simple enough to run it through a frequency counter and then enable/disable the RLS based on that.
Of course, the term "Reverse Lock-out Solenoid" is actually not correct; it's really a "Reverse Enable Solenoid"... but I digress...
Since I will have easy access to the VSS signal in my car, it's simple enough to run it through a frequency counter and then enable/disable the RLS based on that.
Of course, the term "Reverse Lock-out Solenoid" is actually not correct; it's really a "Reverse Enable Solenoid"... but I digress...
Not sure about the reverse lockout, but I was able to match up the VSS and reverse light connectors in the electronics section at Pep Boys. VSS matched to a "horn connector" and VSS was a standard 2-pole male WeatherPak.
Just draw a picture of the connector shape and the locations of the pins and give it a try.
Just draw a picture of the connector shape and the locations of the pins and give it a try.
Supreme Member
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,411
Likes: 3
From: Rock Hill, SC
Car: 1999 Pontiac T/A Firehawk
Engine: ***'s Engine
Transmission: T56
The reverse lockout solenoid connector is the same as the CAGS connector. I got them both from GM but I don't remember what the part number was.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post









