v6 supercharger....well maybe
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v6 supercharger....well maybe
So I'm at work sweepin a sidewalk, and I think.."Gee, it would be nice to have a leaf blower"...then I think, "Haha, some suckers put them in their car for more power"...
But then I got to thinking
seems like a long shot, and I'm not sayin I'm gonna do it but.....
What if a person would put somthing of the sort, not a leaf blower unless you could make it really strong, into their intake blowing the opposite way, against the intake flow. Maybe not directly against it but slightly angled. In theory could this "object" force the air to be compressed like a supercharger, or would it simply rob the engine of air.
Just an idea from wandering mind....
But then I got to thinking
seems like a long shot, and I'm not sayin I'm gonna do it but.....
What if a person would put somthing of the sort, not a leaf blower unless you could make it really strong, into their intake blowing the opposite way, against the intake flow. Maybe not directly against it but slightly angled. In theory could this "object" force the air to be compressed like a supercharger, or would it simply rob the engine of air.
Just an idea from wandering mind....
LOL! That would be interesting, pop the hood and see a leaf blower mounted....'somewhere'!
I remember hearing someone saying something about getting a 'mini turbocharger' for 30 bucks, similar to your idea that produces an extra 50 horsepower. And that was pretty funny.
On the serious side, I don't think anything like that would ever work, and even if it did, it isn't going to produce any real solid horsepower gains in this lil 3.1.
I still say that, dollar to value, a 350 swap is THE way to go for better power gains, or what's probably even cheaper than that, is ditching the 6 and getting an 8.
I remember hearing someone saying something about getting a 'mini turbocharger' for 30 bucks, similar to your idea that produces an extra 50 horsepower. And that was pretty funny.
On the serious side, I don't think anything like that would ever work, and even if it did, it isn't going to produce any real solid horsepower gains in this lil 3.1.
I still say that, dollar to value, a 350 swap is THE way to go for better power gains, or what's probably even cheaper than that, is ditching the 6 and getting an 8.
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It sounds good in theory... but to actually make something like that work, the time and effort for a minimal power gain would not be worth it.
I had someone tell me one time that they put a fan motor from radio shack into their intake ducting right before the TB on their 2.8 and it gave them more power.
I had someone tell me one time that they put a fan motor from radio shack into their intake ducting right before the TB on their 2.8 and it gave them more power.
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i used to have two four inch bilge fans in fabricated into my intake, then i jumped a curb to avoid some hail with my NEW paintjob and ripped one of the hoses i ran, so i pulled it all out and just reduced it to a cone intake
i did have power gains, if you got it to run so there was no turbulence, it would work a lot better
but i know somebody has the pic with hte leaf blower under the hood!!
i did have power gains, if you got it to run so there was no turbulence, it would work a lot better
but i know somebody has the pic with hte leaf blower under the hood!!
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I wasn't looking for a device to do the job, or planning on doing it but I was talkin more about the idea of pushing air against the intake stream to compress it instead of having it push air with the intake. I saw how a blower works....pushing against the air stream to compress it so i thought....well maybe
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I wasn't looking for a device to do the job, or planning on doing it but I was talkin more about the idea of pushing air against the intake stream to compress it instead of having it push air with the intake. I saw how a blower works....pushing against the air stream to compress it so i thought....well maybe
I wasn't looking for a device to do the job, or planning on doing it but I was talkin more about the idea of pushing air against the intake stream to compress it instead of having it push air with the intake. I saw how a blower works....pushing against the air stream to compress it so i thought....well maybe
why would you want to suck the air from the engine? thats just retarded. That would be the exact opposite of a super/turbocharger.
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thats my question...is the intake stream strong enough to push harder against the blower and compress the air, or would the blower just keep air from getting to the engine.
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Uhm.. you obviously didn't look at that picture of how a blower works hard enough. it doesn't push against the stream, it just seems to rotate in the opposite direction.. in fact, if you look, there is *no* gap for air to squeeze through between the fans of a blower. It's actually moving air along the outside of the housing and forcing it into the engine.
The leaf blower concept, btw, could work. I never had the spare cash to ditch on a decent leaf blower/inverter setup, but the last time I looked at the top-of-the-line electric leaf blower walmart was carrying, it was rated at 400 cfm, whereas at redline our engines consume about 250.. IF the blower could produce compression (which is a question which can only be answered by someone buying one and hooking it up along with a deadly accurate boost gauge) it would probably only produce a max of 2-3 psi.. however, it would be able to feed a 2.8 through its entire operating range.
Gains? erm.. .. probably none. that leaf blower required 13 amps of 110v AC.. meaning about 1330 watts.. meaning a HUGE inverter. At 100% efficiency, that's well over 100 amps of 12v dc, and inverters are not 100% efficient.. You might produce enough power with the blower to make up for the extra 140 amp alternator you'll need to power the inverter to make the blower work in the first place.
On the other hand, I'm actually hooking up a small electric ""turbo"" today to see if a: it can produce boost (I'd love to be able to laugh at the guy who bought this joke), and b: if by some miracle it works, I want to see how well the v6's electronics handle the boost (1/2 psi or not).
The leaf blower concept, btw, could work. I never had the spare cash to ditch on a decent leaf blower/inverter setup, but the last time I looked at the top-of-the-line electric leaf blower walmart was carrying, it was rated at 400 cfm, whereas at redline our engines consume about 250.. IF the blower could produce compression (which is a question which can only be answered by someone buying one and hooking it up along with a deadly accurate boost gauge) it would probably only produce a max of 2-3 psi.. however, it would be able to feed a 2.8 through its entire operating range.
Gains? erm.. .. probably none. that leaf blower required 13 amps of 110v AC.. meaning about 1330 watts.. meaning a HUGE inverter. At 100% efficiency, that's well over 100 amps of 12v dc, and inverters are not 100% efficient.. You might produce enough power with the blower to make up for the extra 140 amp alternator you'll need to power the inverter to make the blower work in the first place.
On the other hand, I'm actually hooking up a small electric ""turbo"" today to see if a: it can produce boost (I'd love to be able to laugh at the guy who bought this joke), and b: if by some miracle it works, I want to see how well the v6's electronics handle the boost (1/2 psi or not).
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Also, if you were feeling like MacGuyver, you could buy a leaf blower, stuff a pulley on it, and turn it into a centerfugal supercharger... not saying this would work either, but it does present fewer problems than trying to set up an electrical system for the poor thing. (1000+ watt inverters usually cost over 200 bucks)..
You'd need to reinforce the housing and give it some decent bearings, though, or the thing would just explode under belt tension
You'd need to reinforce the housing and give it some decent bearings, though, or the thing would just explode under belt tension
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thanks...I guess I was a little amiss about superchargers...let me know about that turbo charger
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Mark my words. One day, I will spend $100 for some POS Ford Festiva or something. Hook up a leaf blower to a backup battery. Flip the switch and stomp it. And take bets on how long it would take to overboost. I've got an electric leafblower that produces a maximum windspeed of about 200 if I remember right.



