V6 Discussion and questions about the base carbureted or MPFI V6's and the rare SFI Turbo V6.

biggest bang

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 15, 2003 | 11:34 PM
  #1  
3rdGenSuperman's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC
Car: 1983 Camaro Z28
Engine: 305 cu.in
Transmission: stock
Axle/Gears: stock
biggest bang

this may be a dumb question and their are probably other topics like this but here goes

i have a 2.8 liter, its a decent engine but i want to get the most power out of it possible. What should i do to acheive this. i thought about a v-6 to v-8 swap but i want to see what can be done with this. dont worry about price for now
Reply
Old May 15, 2003 | 11:37 PM
  #2  
Doward's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,827
Likes: 1
From: Gainesville, FL
Car: 1988 Chevy Camaro Hardtop
Engine: Turbocharged/Intercooled 3.1
Transmission: World Class T5 5 Speed
Forced Induction.

Nitrous
Supercharger
Turbocharger
Reply
Old May 16, 2003 | 12:21 AM
  #3  
3rdGenSuperman's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC
Car: 1983 Camaro Z28
Engine: 305 cu.in
Transmission: stock
Axle/Gears: stock
cost

about how much for each, and where is the best place to get them
Reply
Old May 16, 2003 | 01:18 AM
  #4  
Doward's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,827
Likes: 1
From: Gainesville, FL
Car: 1988 Chevy Camaro Hardtop
Engine: Turbocharged/Intercooled 3.1
Transmission: World Class T5 5 Speed
Nitrous - about $400-500 for the 5.0 Mustang kit (works with our cars, too)

Turbo - Custom job only. Price ranges from about $250 to $5000, depending on your fabrication skills.

Super - I believe they have one for the carb'd motors. You'd have to look that up, but I believe around $2300 or so.
Reply
Old May 16, 2003 | 10:34 AM
  #5  
3rdGenSuperman's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC
Car: 1983 Camaro Z28
Engine: 305 cu.in
Transmission: stock
Axle/Gears: stock
so would it be best to switch my engine to carb even though its a 2.8?
Reply
Old May 16, 2003 | 10:43 AM
  #6  
Doward's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,827
Likes: 1
From: Gainesville, FL
Car: 1988 Chevy Camaro Hardtop
Engine: Turbocharged/Intercooled 3.1
Transmission: World Class T5 5 Speed
Depends on what you want to use it for.

Daily driver - do the 3.4 swap, and run a 75 shot of nitrous for those 'speedy' moments.

All out drag car - you're better off swapping a V8 into it.
Reply
Old May 21, 2003 | 10:16 PM
  #7  
BackInBlackGP's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 344
Likes: 0
From: Vermont
Car: 1986 W69 Special Edition
Engine: 2.8/ECM/Int/Exh
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi
Will a non-built 2.8/3.1 actually handle a 75-shot? I'd hate to see rods falling out from under the hood while racing some riced Civic...
Reply
Old May 21, 2003 | 11:45 PM
  #8  
TomP's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 13,414
Likes: 6
From: Central NJ, USA
Car: 1986 Firebird
Engine: 2.8 V6
Transmission: 700R4
I asked a lonnnng time ago on the power adder board about those with v8's with cast pistons, and their shots of nitrous. Quite a few were running a 75hp shot, and never had problems. The main thing to worry about is fuel pressure. If your fuel pressure drops and you run lean, you'll burn (melt through) a piston. A fuel pressure gauge is the safest insurance- if you hit the juice and noticed your fuel pressure drop too low, you could kill the motor before anything bad happened. From what I remember, our connecting rods are strong to begin with.
Reply
Old May 23, 2003 | 12:58 AM
  #9  
OnixV6's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
From: Raritan, NJ
Originally posted by TomP
A fuel pressure gauge is the safest insurance
i think you are confusing the FPSS (fuel pressure safety switch) with the FP gauge.
Reply
Old May 23, 2003 | 07:01 AM
  #10  
Doward's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,827
Likes: 1
From: Gainesville, FL
Car: 1988 Chevy Camaro Hardtop
Engine: Turbocharged/Intercooled 3.1
Transmission: World Class T5 5 Speed
Originally posted by OnixV6
i think you are confusing the FPSS (fuel pressure safety switch) with the FP gauge.
Not necessarily. Would 25-30 psi fuel pressure trigger a safety switch?

Would that run lean? Combined with the NO2, yes.

(And I thought it was an oil pressure switch, but not sure)
Reply
Old May 23, 2003 | 09:50 AM
  #11  
Dale's Avatar
TGO Supporter
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 6,819
Likes: 3
From: AR
Car: 1991 Camaro RS Vert
Engine: 350 S-TPI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: GU5/G80/J65
Converting your engine to carb, is downgraiding it, dont do that.

If its a daily driver, the 3.4l block/internal gut swap will be your more reliable, bang for your buck thing you can do.

Then install some better ignition componets while at it. Then feed it with the bottle.

Then you have quite a few other things to help squeeze a bit more power out of it w/o forced induction which will be VERY costly.
Reply
Old May 23, 2003 | 04:01 PM
  #12  
TomP's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 13,414
Likes: 6
From: Central NJ, USA
Car: 1986 Firebird
Engine: 2.8 V6
Transmission: 700R4
Originally posted by OnixV6
i think you are confusing the FPSS (fuel pressure safety switch) with the FP gauge.
No; I meant a fuel pressure gauge. You could buy both the gauge and buy a safety switch, but best protection is the gauge. What happens if the pressure switch fails and doesn't kill the nitrous?

And like Doward said, there's no factory "fuel pressure safety switch"; but I think we all knew that. A fuel pressure safety switch would have to be bought and added in...
Reply
Old May 23, 2003 | 07:47 PM
  #13  
OnixV6's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
From: Raritan, NJ
Originally posted by Doward
Not necessarily. Would 25-30 psi fuel pressure trigger a safety switch?

Would that run lean? Combined with the NO2, yes.

(And I thought it was an oil pressure switch, but not sure)
the FPSS would kill the N2O system if FP goes below desired level. and yes, there's also an oil pressure safety switch.


Originally posted by TomP
No; I meant a fuel pressure gauge. You could buy both the gauge and buy a safety switch, but best protection is the gauge. What happens if the pressure switch fails and doesn't kill the nitrous?

And like Doward said, there's no factory "fuel pressure safety switch"; but I think we all knew that. A fuel pressure safety switch would have to be bought and added in...
what happens if the FP gauge gets stuck? what if this...? what if that...?

if the FP goes down, by the time you react to kill the engine, it probably already went boom. the FPSS is instant.

Doward said that?
Reply
Old May 23, 2003 | 10:15 PM
  #14  
Project: 85 2.8 bird's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 4,461
Likes: 0
From: BFE, MD
Car: 13 Ram 1500/ 78 Formy
Engine: 5.7 / 7.4
Transmission: 6sp / TH350
Axle/Gears: 3.55 posi / 3.23
you're so responsable Onyx :sillylol:
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
UltRoadWarrior9
Tech / General Engine
336
Apr 28, 2020 10:39 PM
LiquidBlue
Wheels and Tires
32
Dec 10, 2019 04:06 PM
92firebirdguy
TBI
59
Sep 1, 2016 07:53 AM
dbrochard
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
8
Sep 25, 2015 04:56 PM
Mr. Chevy
Engine Swap
0
Sep 11, 2015 06:06 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:13 PM.