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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 07:55 PM
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Alright, yes, the car is finally moving. I drove it for the first time since the begining of summer before we began working on it. A little weird on the speed, problem was ATF. Need to get some more.

Got about 2 starts out of the car before the battery died. We were right. Alternator is fried. Gonna get a rebuilt one.

Started to plan out what to do to it to get the car going. We're gonna start with simple bolt ons (K&N, Computer Chip, CAI) and later on move to bigger things. Also gonna change out the rear axle if we can find a good one in a scrapyard (Lower the topspeed, better acceleration. No way i'm gonna be taking it to the dragstrip, I'd rather have my topspeed be 100mph and get up there quicker).

Any comments or extra ideas?
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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Re: Cars Running

Originally posted by Christerray
Alright, yes, the car is finally moving. I drove it for the first time since the begining of summer before we began working on it. A little weird on the speed, problem was ATF. Need to get some more.

Got about 2 starts out of the car before the battery died. We were right. Alternator is fried. Gonna get a rebuilt one.

Started to plan out what to do to it to get the car going. We're gonna start with simple bolt ons (K&N, Computer Chip, CAI) and later on move to bigger things. Also gonna change out the rear axle if we can find a good one in a scrapyard (Lower the topspeed, better acceleration. No way i'm gonna be taking it to the dragstrip, I'd rather have my topspeed be 100mph and get up there quicker).

Any comments or extra ideas?
man, i KNOW you saw what i told you in your other thread: https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=204556

K&N, CAI and a chip wont do NOTHING.

Infact, the computer chip sucks so bad, most people who get them take them back out. So why waste the money? Wouldnt it be better to spend it on something usefull? (like a camshaft?)

This is the exact reason why NOBODY has a fast 2.8/3.4 F-Body, because they always do the stupid "upgrades" instead of the ones that really count.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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I know, i'm going to do all that stuff. But when I get about 200 dollars a week from my job, it couldn't hurt the car to throw that stuff in.

I am really interested in the fuel pressure increase. Not so much nitrous, i'm still iffy on that. But you're ideas are good, i'm putting them in the shop on a checklist.


Hopefully i'll be able to do them all. Thanks, Lee.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 08:50 PM
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Lee, with all your ideas combined, how much horsepower are we talking?
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by Christerray
Lee, with all your ideas combined, how much horsepower are we talking?
at least 200hp, hell chevy performance made 1.5hp per CI with the stock heads, thats 260hp!

The key to HP is airflow, the more you can flow in, the more power you will make, BUT, the engine also has to breath back OUT, this is why good headers are so important.

Anything you can do to improve airflow into and out of the engine will help, but it is best to start at the main bottlenecks of the engine FIRST! If you do not start at the bottlenecks, all other improvements you do to the engine will never work to thier true potential.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:33 PM
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Damn, seriously? Over 200 horsepower out of a 2.8 berlinetta?


Wait, minus the Nitrous. I'm prolly not going to do that.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by Christerray
Damn, seriously? Over 200 horsepower out of a 2.8 berlinetta?


Wait, minus the Nitrous. I'm prolly not going to do that.
lol, with nitrous you could make at least 400hp.

Just slap some forged pistons in there and hit it with a 200 wetshot.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:45 PM
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No, Nitrous bad.


Thanks a LOT Lee. I am definitly going to use your list. Now I'm not sad anymore, I can probably race riceboys in their CRX's now.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:49 PM
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lee7...."This is the exact reason why NOBODY has a fast 2.8/3.4 F-Body"???? 9.67 in the 1/8 mile is not even fairly quick? i mean, it only outruns lots of street cars that show up at the dragstrip...all the ricers and several v8s.

Christerray...a homemade CAI will make a diffence on top end. the motor cannot breath through that little 1.25 inch(?) hole the stock canister style intake has. i had to temporarily switch back to my stock intake after running a homemade cai and i can feel a HUGE loss of power! i would not buy any JET chip or hypertech or anything. i have done a ton of work to my 3.1, let me know if you have any questions on it.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:56 PM
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I figured as such. My brother keeps pushing me to do the CAI, so i'm definitly going to do that.

Yeah, what have you done to your car to get it that fast? And what's the HP?
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 05:31 PM
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ATF leak, ATF leak, ackkkkkkkkthbppbtmkow;bmk

Put the wrong gasket on. Gotta take the intake manifold off again
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Old Oct 16, 2003 | 06:50 AM
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I've been staring at this for days.. but now that the post is almost a week old, I have got to ressurect it just to ask.. WTF does the intake manifold gasket have to do with an ATF leak?!?!?!?!
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