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Know anything on Turbo 4thgen motors?

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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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Know anything on Turbo 4thgen motors?

i've owned 7 4th gens so far. im thinking of picking up a 00 bird with the 6 in it because they are like dirt cheap now. you think a turbo or supercharger on that 6 is better then the stock 8? please help before i blow my money...
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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if you look around...you can find 4th gen v6s with turbos in them on the net...i've seen one with twin turbos...if you get an 00 it should be a 3.8...which is basically a 350 with two cylinders knocked off...so a 3.8 with one turbo...decent...twin turbos...:hail: ...if you build up that engine...with forged pistons and whatnot...the engine should be able to hold quite a large amount of boost...i'd definately get the v6 and a turbo or 2...just my 2 cents though...
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 06:18 PM
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They made the 3800 SC fourth gens, which put out good power. But that is supercharged and not turbocharged.
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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they never put the 3800 series supercharged engine in the fbody. only in fwd applications. impala ss, monte ss, grand prix gtp, and bonneville ssei.
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 06:41 PM
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I read in a camaro book that they did put them in the camaro. But, I could be wrong, its been known to happen.
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 06:50 PM
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yeah...there wasnt any 3800 series engines in 4th gens...3800 are fwd...camaros are rwd...
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by '84TA w/L69
yeah...there wasnt any 3800 series engines in 4th gens...3800 are fwd...camaros are rwd...
They did indeed use the 3800 in the later 4th gens,though I'm not 100% sure it was called 3800.Rated at 200hp it is the same type of engine used in all late model front drive 3.8 applications.

On another note,the 3.8 is not a 350 with two less cylinders that would be a 4.3 which was a chevy motor.The 3.8 is a Buick motor that has been around for many years in many different variations including the one in my GTA which makes around 650hp at the crank(+/- 510 at the wheels).

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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 07:08 PM
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hey tta850...thanks...i get confused sometimes...youre rite about the 3.8 and the 4.3...i've been reading too much lately...on this site...and at school...it's draining...thanks for keepin us straight...and in line...
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 07:24 PM
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well my whole plan was to buy the v6 because they are cheap, and buy an after market turbo or charger and slap it under the hood. still cost me less then a v8. just wanted to know is it worth it.
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 07:25 PM
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IMHO...its definately worth it...
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 07:29 PM
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here's an earlier 4th gen... http://tiago.phxchevy.com/ ...this one i think only has a 3.4...which will be smaller than your v6...but this is about what you will be looking at...
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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check out tiago's website. he makes turbo kits for 3.4 and 3.8 f-bodies. its called force fed fabrications. i believe hes a member on www.firebirdv6.com. thats where you can find a ton of info on what you need.
not that i hate us here
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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229 ci 3.8 bowtie motor, there were thousands of them 231ci was the Buick 3.8 same era, also thousands. Reagals got Buick motors(GN's too) Monte Carlos got Buick motors and Bowtie ones. I own an original 84 Monte with a vin code that says it's a 231, but mine ended up with the 229 somehow??? I wonder how that happened on the assy line! Lol
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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I want to know what you consider cheap??
how cheap are 00 6es going for???

800 bucks is cheap to me.

Matt
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 10:32 PM
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well ive been seeing lots of 99-00 birds for like 8-10k depending on milage. plus its the winter so the prices drop a little.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by Kontrax
well ive been seeing lots of 99-00 birds for like 8-10k depending on milage. plus its the winter so the prices drop a little.
you could buy a very good condition 60's-70's-80's Corvette for that much.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by Kontrax
well ive been seeing lots of 99-00 birds for like 8-10k depending on milage. plus its the winter so the prices drop a little.
Well 98 LS1 cars can be found for around 10-11 or so, so I'd suggest for 3k more get the V8 car.

If you do opt for the 6, take advantage of GN parts, build the internals and run nitrous. I know of quite a few V6 cars in the 12s.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 02:50 PM
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well ive had the 8's, just wanted to try something different. as for getting a vette, i have no intrest.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 04:41 PM
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someone mention a 4th gen 3800 Series II, aska L36?

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