Is it impossible to put every single horse power from your crank to the ground? If so what would have to be done?

 

Yes it's impossible.

 

depends on the engine. Jet engines are probly the closest.

 

ummm....yup what they said...

 

Ride horseback

 

no way to get EVERY hp

to do that though (in a theoretical world) you would have to remove all friction from the bearings in the transmission,rear end, axles, wheels, and such

you would all have to reduce any and all losses from air resistance

the parts wouldh ave to have NO mass/weight to reduce inertial loss

so yeah


not going to happen

 

Just bolt a tire to each end of the crank shaft and learn to balance real well.

 

jet engines don't put power to the ground.

anything that has a tranny or any kind of weight to turn or anything like that, you'll lose some hp.

 

We get into the sillyest debates on this V6 site.

 

lol...i'm sorry. i just had to throw that last post in there.

 

 

you would still have losses though
the horse would still have friction from wind with the legs pumping
the innefficient motion of the horses legs are going to cause some losses
pumping loss from the horses breathing
friction from the horses hooves on the ground
the hairs on the horses legs rubbing against one another forcing some friction


so even that isn't perfect

 

but, you've still got one horsepower.

 

maybe so but you still have loss and not all of it goes to the ground

 

so by your logic, you would also have an engine that has an infinite amount of HP. The engine puts out HP at the crank and that is what we are talking about, not getting the actual specific energy of the fuel being used. Looking at it this way, no matter how lumpy the horse is, with it's inherent losses, you are still making 1 HP.

Also, wind resistance doesn't actually change the amount of power that you make, it just changes the amount of power that is used to actually propel the vehicle. If you are putting 300HP to the ground with 0 wind, you are still putting 300 HP down with a 30MPH headwind, you just have to expend more of it to overcome the wind, so you waste some, but it's still put to the ground.

But in answer to the original question...no, it can't be done. You just have to cut your losses and make more power!!!! <insert evil laugh here>

 

ah yes 1 horse might still be putting out 1 hp in the easy way

BUT not the real horsepower used in physics
as far as wind resistance it can actually cause a less of power
think about it wind resistance isn't just put on on the front o the object causing it not to move forward as fast
but you also have resistance on the legs or wheels preventing them from turning which would prevent power from being applied to the ground
also on the horse with the hairs on the legs with the wing would cause them to vibrate which could possibly unbalance the motion of the horse causing minute loss in power which even small as it might be still is loss of power

and if you follow the REAL def of horsepower not
it is a horse and there is only one so that is one hp
you aren ot putting all the power to the ground

 

House power is equated to a medium size horse- just ride a very large horse like a Clydesdale and the subject just became null and void. Fact is, on a large horse under any condition (other than contracting phneomonia) will always put out a definitive 1 HP.

Overclock (Billy), Just for kicks (Horse kicks that is) can we see just how bizarre this can get without locking it. This V6 board never ceases to amaze me.

 

true
this is an interesting discussion and getting bizzare as to what we are arguing over

and so far all in good fun no flames or anything yet (stupid vsixtoy boy yeah yeah you heard me STUPID sorry I had to it's not TGO without the flames )


the REAL def of horsepower is 33,000lbs/ft per minute

so if a horse was only doing 20,000lbs/ft per minute yes I guess under your def it is still 1 horsepower BUT the real def according most any physics person will tell you that the 33,000lbs/ft per minute is the correct deff

so that horse putting out 20,000lbs/ft per min isn't really putting out a full horsepower even though the horse is the thing doing the powering

 

As long as this doesn't turn into flame city, I don't care how bizarre the conversation gets... it's got a tech aspect... kinda...

 

2_point8_boy your quote is in accurate but good response.

 

what a damn goofy discussion. We all need to get laid, we are wasting WAY too much energy on this.

 

hey I get laid all the time

but keep this on topic

consider this your first warning 2.8


but vsixtoy you have a reply yet?