All the new piping is ordered, for the new Y pipe, and the clutch hydraulics came in. I'm planning on building the new, improved (MUCH better flow) Y pipe this weekend. I'll be sure to post pics for all

Some new news, too - ALL the turbo kits will COME CERAMIC COATED. That's right, I've struck a deal with one of the local members, and will now have all the pipes coated. Color selections (probably silver or black) to come...

Price range is still looking around $2400-2500... Tiago's running his for $3000, so I think this is really fair - especially with the quality I'm sure everyone is expecting (2 years aren't going to waste!)

As we near the time of the first group purchase (track times to come first, and I'd really like to install one of the kits, first, as a documentation of how the install will go), I'd like a show of hands as to who is really interested in this turbo setup. Poll above.

 

LOL, there's my vote! The V6 is grossly underpowered, but responds well to forced induction. At the cost of these kits, I'd definetly jump on a well built, solid setup - considering it should be worth 70-90hp, out of the box (6-8psi).

And even after the initial investment, more power is just a turn of a screw away!

 

Yeah I vote for turbo get it out there Doward. I really crave the boost!

 

BUILD it! All I want is the fuel management, turbo/wastegate, BOV, and oil feed lines and whatnot. I can't mount it in the engine bay, I'll opt for the axle back turbo-STEALTH style (as if the hiss from your rear wouldn't give you away...) "That hiss is just a pinhole in my tire, nothing to worry about, see (pops hood)"

 

I vote for theres TOO many turbo update threads!

And the answer to the poll is obvious.

 

too many turbo update threads?? o.k.

anyways, lets get these turbos sellin!

 

Thanks brobert... had to have ONE negative, eh?

Thursday pipes arrive!

 

nah, just seems like too many of these threads go no place.

And of course everyone wants a turbo for their v6.

 

i want one. if ya get it done fast enough, itll save me the headache of having to make one myself

 

So I take it there is still interest in this? Should have the new Y pipe ready next week

 

doward,man when my insurance settlement comes, screw surgery,i am sending u my loot for a turbo kit,lol, can't wait to see them for sale, oh hey i know u already pm'd me with the stuff that it comes with ,but could u please tell us all what it has? also, if i used ur setup on a factory rebuilt shortblock, with a nice cam, really worked over heads, exhuast and ecm, could i break 350hp???

 

Yes, 350hp is entirely possible on the kit design - albeit maxed out. Well, we'll know in a few more weeks, lol! It won't make that out of the box, (more along 240) but the more daring out there will break 350, I'm sure.

Kits will include -

Accel 30pph Injectors
Recalibrated PROM
Large Front Mounted Intercooler
Brand New Turbocharger
All exhaust piping
New O2 Sensor wire
All intake piping
New MAF (just to be sure)
BOV
Instructions
Oil Feed Line
Oil Return Line
Water Feed Line
Water Return Line

I'm sure there's more little things I'll be including... The object of the kit is, is that all you'll need to supply, are tools + time.

 

I see that us 3.1 owners will have to convert to a 2.8 MAF system from our MAP system and change ECM's as well?

 

Not quite... I'm working on the 3.1 side of things, with the SD setup still. Once i get it figured out, then you guys can run too!

 

yeah the 3.1 setup is what im waiting for....although i may do the 3.4 swap into my car to handle it a little better, still working out the details on that idea

 

Now, I'm jsut curious.....I want a twin turbo setup and I know it's more parctical than a single turbo as far a v engine is concerned.
What set up are you building doward???
What kind of turbochrager units are you using?
finally, It won't be street legal will it???

 

Just to clarify -

The 3.1 problem lies in the fact that the SD '730 setup hasn't yet been cracked to run boost... I am working on that currently.

A 3.1 OR 3.4 that's been put into a (originally equipped) 2.8 (anything from an '86-'89 FBody) will work with the kit. All you need, is the 302 ecu and wiring setup from the 2.8 MPFIs. As soon as I can build a chip that will support boost, I will add the '90-'92 Fbody 3.1s to the official 'list'.

It's a single turbo. Makes more power that way... Look at any stock twin turbo system (Supra, 300ZX, etc) and what's the big upgrade? Going to a single turbo setup. Figured I'd avoid Stage 1, and go for Stage 2 as a jump point.

Street legal? Depends on your terms of street legal.. ?

 

well for me i have to save the $$ to buy the 3.1 kit so i'm not worried right now about delay

 

Quickie here..

Finally finished Brian's (RamTuffTiger's) custom 2.5" dual mandrel bent exhaust, complete with X Pipe and Magnaflow mufflers.

What's that mean? Y pipe started. Unfortunately, I'm stuck now, until I can get to an exhaust shop, to have the ends flared! I expect to have the Y pipe done Monday, with pics!

 

hey dow, what about those 85 model people? I'm not looking for a kit for my car, but was curious about us ole' school MPFI dudes.

 

I'm not entirely certain... If you use the 302 ecu, then yes, the kit will work. I'll research into that, and post tonight my findings.

Actually, I'm showing an '870 ecu?

What's the story on that?

 

www.cruzers.com/~ludis/ shows it as a card-edge type ecu.. which is actually rather weird for EFI. If '85 guys want access to this stuff, someone needs to get the service number off their ecu (122xxxx) and post it.. high-res pictures of the wiring harness ECU plugs might help too. There stands a chance that rechipping the 85 ECU isn't feasable.. be prepared for electronics swaps.

 

Way to go, GM.

 

The 870 is slow but it can be tuned at least in it v8 tpi form it can. The nice thing about the 870 is no memcal to worry about just the chip.

 

The end of summer is coming fast man. Are you gonna have time to get some decent track tuning and runs in this year? Or will we have to wait another one?

I just assume you would need a good dozen or so runs over a few weeks to get it all dialed in right where your happy enough to share the numbers.

 

the closest track to doward closes in the winter but he can drive a little further and come down to my area and run...year-round. i love going racing in the winter!

 

AM91's correct - Orlando Speed World = All year racing!

I'm fabricating a new bracket system for it... Didn't make it to the track this Wednesday, but I got my laptop working, and the clutch hydraulics in. The next week will be an interesting one, indeed

 

i'm kinda slow sometimes so excuse the ignorance please and replace it with knowledge?

what is the difference between a waste gate and a blow-off valve??

and will the kit have an internal or external valve?

 

I'm undecided on external/internal wastegate for the kits... we'll see, though

Wastegate = lets exhaust gas past the turbine, to prevent it from building more boost.

BOV (Blow off Valve) = lets pressure out of the intake, when snapping the throttle blades shut, so as to prevent compressor surge. Also sounds very cool.

 

Well good. I know your gonna impress people but am dying for proof for my prediction.

 

doward :hail:


thanks

 

Hoping Wednesday will be official track day! Pray for completion, everyone!

 

pray for no rain wednesday! ...here in the great SUNSHINE STATE!

 

LOL, yeah... Charley f'd me up on my timeline with the Y pipe... Tomorrow morn, I'll tack everything back into place, double check my measurements, then weld it all up. Expect a working Y pipe tomorrow.

Everything from the driver's side to the Y is done, and everything from the Pass side right to the Y is done. Now it's just a 2.5" upward sweep, and into the turbo - everything else is DONE.

Laptop is lined up, ready to tune!!!

 

SWEET!!

 

i cant freaggin wait to see what its gonna pull at the track. good luck man!!!!!!!!

 

don't blow any seals in the turbo on the way to the track this time, and lets shoot for NO jacks going through the oil pan too! good luck! can't wait to hear what it does. how much boost are you going to try to run the first night at the track?

 

Cripes, man, do you remember every problem I've had??

12psi, out the box, why?

 

one more time SWWWEEEETTTT!!!

 

so basically for $2500 i can turn a 3.4 ltr into a monster on the road

uncle bens gonna get burned thats for sure

 

can i just get the management, chip BOV, and turbo?
Maybe a flange too? I dont need an intercooler either...nitrous should take care of that.....

 

i like your style fbodtrek, when it gets hot hit the nitrous button

 

LOL, FBodTrek, I might be able to work something up for you. Let me get the kits rolling, then we'll talk, ok?

 

lol, doward, i do remember most of the stuff you've been through on that thing! i just hope that i can soon forget all of that old stuff and just be in awe and wish that i didn't have nearly 11:1 CR! i want boost on my car!!!!

 

I'm telling you, we need to get you down to 8.5:1 and supercharge your ride!! That'd rocket!

 

i'm thinking along the lines of, later on, building a 3.4 with my cam and 9:1 CR or so. then, make a bracket or two and a little piping and bolt a SC on it.

 

If you go 9:1, use the FWD Aluminum heads. I'm working on a intake to use the FWD heads with our RWD setups.

 

Sound interesting......a bump in CR with just a head swap. the FWD heads flow better too i hear. Im in no hurry right now Doward, whenever the money starts coming in, we can work somthing out (trade you a freshly built 3.4 for a turbo setup...hehe) I'm really starting to like these motors more and more. I want boost... and I'm patient

 

It's not quite that simple... swapping to FWD Aluminum heads will require new pistons (50cc chamber vs 26cc!)

 

Doward, how's the turbo progressing? Did you get to run it yet?