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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 01:02 AM
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Cold Air = Very Yes.

heh. 2:15am, and I'm out tuning, in 40 degree weather. OMG. THE PULL IN 3RD GEAR IS AMAZINGLY MORE POWERFUL THAN WHEN IT'S HOT OUT.

Of course, some of that, could simply be that I'm too freaking rich. I really got to save up for a WB O2.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 01:22 AM
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anytime i drive when its cold my car has some haul.

i wonder how hard it would be to make a cooler for incoming air
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 02:54 AM
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anytime i drive when its cold my car has some haul
Me too.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by kretos
anytime i drive when its cold my car has some haul.

i wonder how hard it would be to make a cooler for incoming air
Ahem.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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Ya build a pocket for the inter cooler to hold blocks of dry ice.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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I know it doesn't make sense, but I feel like it's the other way for my car. The hotter it is outside, the faster the car seems to run.

Of course I love the heat- the hotter the better- and I usually have the music up and the windows down... so I guess it's all psychological, huh?

In the cold (which I hate), my car doesn't wanna move.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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maybe the cold affects your slush box Tom???

Mine loves the cold.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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Ya build a pocket for the inter cooler to hold blocks of dry ice.
this actually isn't too bad of an idea
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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dry ice should be easy to find. and it might also help cool the motor down if the inter cooler is in front of the radiator.

Though it would work the best if the cooler air was detected by the computer sensors. Not sure where D has the ITA or MAF hooked up.

Why simply putting a bag of ice or even a block of dry ice on the intake may not be as helpful in an FI car like it does a carb'ed.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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When its cold, mine sputters under hard acceleration (until the engine is warm). Time for some new spark plugs.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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mine does the same thing, I just figured it was too friggin cold to be trying to go quick... it's more when I start it, sit for 30seconds and go cause I'm friggin late for work.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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Oh, no guys, don't misunderstand me - I always let my car reach operating temp before running around. I've got a really good CAI setup for the turbo - I gotta get more pics eventually. Hey, maybe I'll get Am_91 to take a quick couple of clips of the car, when I come up to have him coat my intake pipes!
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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Could we have freon from the a/c lines run into the bottom of the throttle body where the coolant usually flows in? That stuff is usually cold isn't it? I imagine that would cool the air coming in a bit if coolant running there heats it up enough to cause a difference....
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by TomP
I know it doesn't make sense, but I feel like it's the other way for my car. The hotter it is outside, the faster the car seems to run.

Of course I love the heat- the hotter the better- and I usually have the music up and the windows down... so I guess it's all psychological, huh?

In the cold (which I hate), my car doesn't wanna move.

I would try the TomP tuneup

do a search for it a lot of ppl have good luck doing it
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 01:37 AM
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Could we have freon from the a/c lines run into the bottom of the throttle body where the coolant usually flows in? That stuff is usually cold isn't it? I imagine that would cool the air coming in a bit if coolant running there heats it up enough to cause a difference....

a lot of the cooling that comes from freon is because of the compression expansion stuff it goes through
and the compressor would prolly eat up more power then you would gain from the air being cold
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by rx7speed
I would try the TomP tuneup

do a search for it a lot of ppl have good luck doing it
I think TomP is quite aware of the TomP tuneup
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 02:43 AM
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I think TomP is quite aware of the TomP tuneup
Damn, you stole my line!
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 02:54 AM
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Originally posted by 92RSSlowmaro
I think TomP is quite aware of the TomP tuneup

lol theres a blonde moment
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 07:46 AM
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Does anybody have tried about a intercooler,just like an 18 wheeler or a turbo setup without the turbo.Will that help?
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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Nope. You can't cool the incoming air charge any more than ambient air temp. Now, if you employ activ cooling (dry ice) then you might get somewhere.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 02:20 PM
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anyone ever notice that the car has more pickup right after you put gas in it on a hot day?

ive seen dirt track cars have gas line coolers the kinda look like a champaigne ice box only with gas lines coiled in it. fill with ice.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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yea, whenever you bring it for me to coat the pipes, i'll shoot some video of it! speaking of that...when you gonna bring it for me to coat the pipes?
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