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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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Car: 86 Berlinetta 84 MonteCL
Engine: 3.4 MPFI 3.8 229
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Datalogging the MAF cars

Anyone know what programs I can use to make it happen? Car is an 86 model lb8 maf. I have acces to everything to tune now, ALDL from Moates, as well as the burner and various software. Let me know, I just want to get a data log for now. I can get the definition files for this car, so I know it can be logged SOMEHOW.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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..... your answer is in another ACTIVE thread....

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=274594
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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Car: 86 Berlinetta 84 MonteCL
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Didn't answer any questions Fine for 3.1 guysm what about me?
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by TechSmurf
So far as I have found, the 7302 guys are stuck using Diacom and TunerCATS. Supposedly WinALDL will work with the 2.8s, but I haven't gotten it to communicate quite yet (haven't tried very hard either, though)
Originally posted by Doward
'302 uses WinAldl, but you have to ignore the data coming through - it reads it fine, but screws up teh conversion.

I've been using the RAW output, and converting myself!
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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Car: 86 Berlinetta 84 MonteCL
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Originally posted by TechSmurf
So what that's telling me is that Win ALDL MAY work.....but that's it? Not very helpful. I thought people had tuned these before?
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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I have heard that this version will work on all of the 2.8 MPFI's as well meaning the 7302's


http://winaldl.joby.se/
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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No, what that says is Doward uses WinALDL, and to my knowledge Doward is the only person I know of who has done anything with the 7302 (RBob might have too, but I'm still fuzzy as to what RBob even drives)
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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I have had WinALDL work on my 85 2.8. It does work. You just need to pick the right ecm for it. I think the readme file or something of the sort that comes with it says which file to use with which engines and years. Little slower logging than I want, but it does work.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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It's listed as a '85 ECM and an '86 ECM.

The '88 (my car) uses a different datastream than either - the LV8 value is listed under MCUIO, for example.
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by TechSmurf
(RBob might have too, but I'm still fuzzy as to what RBob even drives)
Some days he's not sure either

RBob.
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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Why can't ya just use the laptop as the cars computer??? run some virtual ecm program, adjusting on the fly as the speed of the laptop CPU. Some kind of virtual program like making a mac run windows stuff. The cars stuff thinks your laptop is the stock computer.
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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You can... but personally, I don't want my car crashing every 30 minutes.
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by TechSmurf
You can... but personally, I don't want my car crashing every 30 minutes.
run the stuff in dos
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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I think I'll stick to the hardware that's designed to run the system.
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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(this is FbodTrek) What if I have that weird 870 ecm?? Cause that's what it is... WHat chip burner/reader can i use to pull the BIN? I've looked all over, and I can't find anything but how to convert it to 730, which I won't do. How would I go about pulling a data stream, and about reading the PROM?
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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I'm too lazy to look it up... refresh me on what the '870 is used on?
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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The 870 is used on 85 and some of the 86 2.8's. It's the red headed step child of Chevy ecm's.
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 11:51 PM
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Someone here swapped a '870 with a '302 ecm, I believe, with no differences.

The ALDL datastream is defined differently, though.
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by Doward
Someone here swapped a '870 with a '302 ecm, I believe, with no differences.

The ALDL datastream is defined differently, though.
I believe that was Project: 85 2.8 bird.
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