K... there are quite a few of you who have asked me if I had any sound file of RAIF. Mostly from people who think a v-6 will sound crappy with Flowmasters or with the 3in exhaust... yadda yadda... The whole I want my 6 to sound like an 8... well i think its pretty darn close!

Well I finally got a few! SO listen and let me know what you think!

The digital camera I have now made it quite easy! So here are the links to them...

#1 Here is the car with the new truleo intake. I wanted you all to hear how it is really sucking in the air thru the filter...

#2 Raif with the cut out closed

# 3 Opening the cut out on camera

#4 Idling with the cut out open

#5 Reving with the cut out open

#6 On the dyno making a run

 

If you have any issues I also have them on my space

 

I don't know what to say...

I don't like how it sounds though, that much is for sure. And that dyno pull seemed like it lasted an eternity...

 

The denizens of Ragtopia have spoken and I have heard their cries!!

It is my official decree that your car, Raif, must be apprehended and executed for impersonating a 3rdGen!!!

Death to Raif!

 

"The whole I want my 6 to sound like an 8... well i think its pretty darn close!"

Well, I don't

 

You said it, not me...

I think it's very loud for a car that gets enough attention by appearence and doesn't have the performance to back up the noise. Sorry, JHMO.

 

You forgot option number seven. Put the car out of its misery already.

 

The larger TB is what is making the larger sucking noise, not the intake. Mine dooes that simply with the stock plenum and a larger TB

 

You just can't stay away. You don't take hints well do you?

 

i'm not around here for a few months and *******s like this have a problem with me making a factual suggestion.

mind your own f*cking business and keep your posts technical brown noser- then we wouldn't have these petty arguements

edit: Know what, I have been up to something very trick lately and was going to reveil it- hence why i logged on- But **** everyone- your loss.

 

That cam makes alot of difference. Mine sure doesnt sound like that with the dump open.

 

Huh huh huh huh huh . . . your name is Nad! Uh huh huh huh huh!!

 

Oh snap, like people are waiting around hitting refresh on their computer

 

I was only able to listen the the clip with the cutout closed, dialup.

I like it! It actually sounds better then any other flowmaster 6 banger combo Ive heard.

Forgive me for changing topic a bit but how much more power did you gain with the new intake setup?

 

He must have figured out how to make a V8 sound like a V6.

 

i always used to drive hondas, and the car sounds good in lower rpm's but once it get up there it sounded like my old integra with a cut out

 

If you weren't so ignorant and knew ther car in reference and its many custom one of a kind modifications, then you would be instead of posting snipe comments like an ***.

 

like the cam raif, sounds good....the cutout is different also, don't think i've heard a six w an open pipe. W/ it closed, sounds like a typical six once it comes off idle (typical six w/ a flowmaster ya know) but the idle is really nice w/ that cam you've got. Like the intake too.

 

OK cause you all are on topic! Grow up already!

Well thats not the case anymore!

 

Actually you need to think about that a bit more. The TB can't draw anymore air in then the Intake manifold will allow! ITs whatever is the biggest restriction that determines the air flow! The car would draw a bit with the old set up and the Suncoast box with K&n, but nothing like this! Yours might suck air in a bit, but not like this. The intake manifold was the major air restriction in my system! Trust me I have the figures to back that up and I will be releasing them as soon as the air fule ratio is straightened out!

 

Why don't you take your off topic petty arguements out of my thread... thanks! Can we keep it above board and act like adults please!

 

Thanks you guys! And I'm totaly feeling you ojn the dial up issue. (what I'm on at wk)

 

Its got nothing to do with the volume of sucking (when the TB blade is closed at idle)- its resonating noise outword due to the larger diameter oraface walls. Mine does the same exact thing with my 62mm TB and the stock ported plenum. It is rather loud when you are standing in the front half of the cars direction and is actually louder than the exhaust by far when standing in front of the car 50 ft away.

 

Well mine is doing it much more with the truleo intake versus my stock ported plenum... car is still getting air thru idle air control... point is the car even at idle is drawing more air then it did with the stock setup!

 

Shannon, I am trying to be as polite about this as possible so please be aware I am trying to be respectful in my explination.
The car can not possibly be drawing any more air at idle or your rpms would be increasing. The throat of the Trueleo intake and the TB you have are larger diameter orafaces than the previous parts you had on so it is point blank just resonating louder, not sucking any harder at idle.

 

What are you 9???? Thats what my best friends 9 year old says!

 

That's not on topic.

So, what are the numbers on the car nowadays? You break violently into the teens yet?

 

Damn it, Cheyenne beat me to the punch!!!

Seriously though, what's the point of making a V6 sound like a V8? That's the kind of thing HS kids do. I mean way back in the 80's, I put a GN hood and wheels on my '79 Regal. All it accomplished was humiliation when anything with a V8 pulled along side and proceeded to blow my doors off. The Regal had the standard carbed 3.8L V6 in case you thought otherwise.

Honestly, I think it sounds lousy. Maybe your friend's 9 year old will think it sounds like a V8 but anyone who knows anything about automobiles will know better.

 

I personally think it would be a great idea for anyone posting on this board to have to submit a picture of themselves and a personal profile so that they do not remain annonymous and hide behind a computer making childish remarks as the two idiots above me are. It is postings like this that have lead me to cuss out asswipes like this many times in the past- Everyone seems to lack the realization that I attack this childish crap trying to belittle these punks in order to make this board a better place to come to for factual knowledge,

Shannon here is sharing findings to everyone and these asswipes are immorally trying to disgrace her for having an opinion and a right to own a particular car. Why do these asswipes have noo morals and a superiority complex to attempt belittle people? because they can hide on the intenet like toughguys and or/ probably bully people in the real world too. Where are your manors, your parents should be embarassed at how you are raise- but they are probably just as irresponsible seeing how these disgraces to the human race ended up.

At the very least, this post should have been moderated hours ago so this childishness would have been erased and this not continue. Yet it always goes unmoderated for enough time for things to come to this embarassment.

I was going to disclose info on new testing of my intake- but I will choose to just keep all future work I do to myself since this F8ckfest continues on this V6 board. Yes, it happens elsewhere on TGO also, but about 5% of what goes on here in this V6 board.

 

sounds like a poorly tuned v6 that barely makes 100hp

sorry thats my opinion though.


really, im being honest here.

 

My cardomain is linked below every post and I'd be happy to e-mail you picks if you respond to my PMs. You do realize your screen name has no links, no sig, and no way of figuring out who you are, correct?

Sharon, I think your car is great for what you have it for. It's not what I would ever have a car for, so my tastes don't agree with it, but they make Thai food and I cant stand the ****, so obviously I'm not the only opinion that matters in the world. Please keep this in mind before you get all offended by what I say, I'm giving you honest input from an experienced car enthusienst. I like my cars nice and subtle and quiet, that's all I'm trying to get across in this thread.

 

Nevemind, it's just Dean, I'm a little slow. Nead- Keep on doing what you do, mister livin in the 60's with my 'Vette.

 

Not digging any of it. It makes baby Jesus cry.

See, here's baby Jesus crying:


You made baby Jesus cry! You bastard!

 

I have seen you do everything in that paragraph multiple times on the board. You are not one to get all high and mighty on this board. You truly are the pot calling the kettle black.








Raif I should have put a at the end of my post to you as it was meant to razz you not insult you. You are going to do whatever with your car as you see fit and while I might not like it I respect it.

 

im chimin in again...don't think the real answer is trying to make a v6 sound like a v8, althought, i believe people will say that often. The real key however is slightly different, people are trying to achieve a performance typed sound, not necessarily duplicate the sound made by a v8 car. Sometimes that can be seen as one in the same, but, it just depends on the situation and what people are used to.

Take the audience into account. We're on an f-body board, the fast f-bodys (save the 3.8L turbo car) were v8 powered. These fast cars were producing 245 horse at the fly, which of course is halfway respectable, the sixers aren't making anywhere near that, the four bangers weren't either, and neither were the small v8's and non-performance v8's. So, to the typical american gear head what sounds like muscle? a lopey cam? High compression? Open Exhaust? most likely all of the above and probabably combined, the other thing is the sound of 8 cylinders resonating through the pipes.

Now, to the import kids, some will think that the sound of muscle is a DOHC four cylinder, a blow off valve, and coffee can exhaust all echoing deafly at 10,000 rpm. The typical american crowd laughs at the sound of the honda, and the typical honda crowd laughs at the sound of the ole' american muslce...This my friends is simply different again, a new way of looking at things.

I've also taken note of many die hard old school american car guys hating the sound of LS-X series engines, w/ aftermarket exhaust, and w/ the factory pipes. Some (me included) believe they sound incredibly powerful, while some, say, they sound puny, and seem to lack true *****....It's all a matter of opinion, and, everyone is entitled to their own, but the best thing to be in this world is open to new ideas. If we're not open to new things, we'll end up as some old fart, who hasn't shaven in a month, or had a haircut in a year, w/ a beer belly and a t-shirt that's too small for us saying "***, they don't make cars like they used too, my ole' HEMI could blow the doors off anything out-dere" and crack open another beer.

 

Dean,
See the Cardomain link in my sig? There is no hiding, big guy! If you're ever in the Cleveland area, by all means, stop on by. Shannon asked for opinions and I gave her mine. There will always be people who hate your mods, so deal with it! Honestly, if I had a V6 in my Camaro, I'd probably swap the LT1 out of the wagon, run low 13's and call it a day! Oh and since you're on the subject of forum content, I must have missed the update about the use of profanity on these boards. It looks like it's time for you to be banned, AGAIN! Cheers!!!
Sorry if this got a bit off topic. It's nothing personal, Shannon but I just don't like! Jeff

 

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What in ***'s name has happened to this board?

Biff - your last post in this thread sums it up. Her car, her choice.

Shannon - Dean's correct - the sucking you are hearing is from the larger diameter TB, nothing more.

It's not a bad thing, or a good thing, or whatever - it's simple fact. Even with the IAC opened a bit, you are pulling the majority of your air around the crack in the throttle plate, and you will make that whistling due to it.

George Khawahie - worthless post. If you have nothing to contribute, keep your mouth shut.

85f-bird - 'the fast f-bodys (save the 3.8L turbo car) were v8 powered. These fast cars were producing 245 horse at the fly, which of course is halfway respectable, the sixers aren't making anywhere near that'

I'm pushing 255hp at the flywheel. (3.1L. With 2 broken 2nd ring lands. 7psi)

Cheyenne383 - If you got a problem with Dean, find the back of the line (lol, sorry Dean, it's true) and take it up in PMs. Quit cluttering the damn board with your rambling B/S.

Ragtop89 - I hope you were kidding. If you don't like RedRaif's car, please see the post RIGHT BEFORE YOURS from brodyscamaro showing the proper way to respect someone's work, while still letting them know it's not your cup of tea.

I've been gone like a month and a half, I come back, and it's all gone to pot.

I've got to get to my Chem class now guys...

Shannon, I'm not wild with how it sounds - I don't see any reason to try to make a 6 sound like something it's not. Represent, and be proud of your 6 cylinder!

Just my .02... def awaiting how the intake does, as I'd like to compare it to my own (going back on the dyno again next month)

 

hey dow, good job on those numbers, still love hearin it...bye the way though, that comment wasn't for you or any of the modded v6's, was simply factory specs, just as a 245 hp v8 is a factory spec, fast for it's day, slow for today, and still, not terribly slow, lol...maybe in these modern days, cars have gotten terribly fast. i dunno.

 

yeah,the new lexus IS300 puts out 300hp...WTF

 

And thats all Dean was trying to say when the instigatior bandwagon started crap towards me again in this post- yet everyone is blind thinking I start the trouble.

 

WEll you are as mature as usual! Well you know I'm allowed to respond in like when you guys come on like you do acting like you have...

And on the numbers... There are few people who know them... I can't release the Dyno sheet per my agreement with Truleo. We want the car fully tuned and then will release all numbers both tuned and untuned to compare the intake to stock numbers!

But I will not tell you exact numbers, but I will tell you bunch of beggers that according to a test done by one of the big magazines... can't remember if it was HPP, or GMHT... they tested a stock 95 Lt1 car on the dyno. Well my TQ has surpassed that! Thats all you are getting.

 

Well again you are wrong... I took the car to the F-body gathering here in GA last may... just after the exhaust swap. And the car got loads of positive attention. People met me at the line up to check out the car and see what was under the hood. 99% of them were v-8 guys and all were f-body guys!! So your opinion is a bit off!

And the point is what is actually making the car sound better is the mods that are bringing it into v-8 power territiory. As it gets stronger, it sound more like I v-8! Never said it sounded exactly like a v-8 btw! Obiously it tins out a bit when its running at higher RPMs... nothing can be done about that. Point is for what it is I think it sound better then any other 6 and some 8s!

 

Well your figures are way off! its makes considerably over your opinioned estimate!

 

Well that I can respect! You guys know me well enough to know better then to get all childish acting and think im gonna go sit in a courner and cry, and say "you win I'll change my car!"

Well thats all you have to say... Again all in the way you say things. You and I have been around and around quite a number of times over htis same point. Point being its not like I'm ignoring the performance angle all together like you guys act like I have. You figure what you see is the end all be all and its not. The car is a wk in progress. Its evolving and changing both looks and performance.

 

Nah thats you Baby Jesus crying at you lack of tact...

 

I like your point with the whole responce... this part I quoted however is my point also... I'm doing that... with the increased level of performance we are achieving with my car, so the car sounds more like the typical 8... lopey cam... lower exhaust tone at idle compared to stock. The tone will never exactle be like and 8, but it gets deeper and richer and the cam hits harder and harder with each mod. Making it sound less like its 2.8, 3.1, & 3.4 brothers and more like a v-8

 

The point never was that I was tring to make it sound like an 8... just what has happened since we have been modding the engine! Guess I figured most of you guys would realize that its a by product

 

Histrionics aside for as long as possible: What's fuel mileage on that car? I pay $2.53 for regular and admire any builder whose car can sip rather than gulp. As I say this I'm putting a 383 together, but it's not for a daily driver.

BTW it may not sound like a V8 car to me, but kudos for building it your way. Whether it looks like every car of its type or like nothing seen before, all it SHOULD do is put a smile on its owner's face.

K

 

What exactly am I wrong about? I gave you my OPINION.

Have you ever heard the term "Leg Humpers"?