well on our old hondas, we would find the shortest line for the charge pipes to go from turbo - intercooler - intake. and we would cut away at the front end to get it to fit. so that way pressure doesnt drop...... alot anyways. plus it looks bad ***

im nto worried about presure drop, the turbo im using can make more boost then the engine can handle,about 10-12 more psi

man, thats like scrounging for pennies when there are twenties lying around. any gains were purely pyschological.

That's pretty much what I was thinking.

BTW nice analogy.

no actually the shorter the compressed air has to travel, the quicker your turbo can spool. but thanks for the input

true, but if you notice, i didnt actually say that it didnt do anything, i said it totally wasnt in any realm significant. I'm not saying it isnt wise to plan the best route for your intake piping to minimize bends and pipe length, but jeapordizing the structural integrity of your car for what adds up to at the most maybe 10 ms of spool time doesnt make much sense to me.

and sorry if i came off as a jerk, that wasnt my intention.

no its cool, not even bothered. we wouldnt take anything away that didnt need to be there. so along with cutting holes, we would also weld in additional support aroung where we cut.

Leo is correct - the shorter the intake path, the better the throttle response.

Go compare a stock 7MGTE vs a FFIM (forward facing intake manifold) 7MGTE. The difference is VERY noticeable.

Do not run your pipes unnecessarily longer than they need be, and shortening them DOES increase throttle response.

Thanks alot doward, i knew i knew what i was talking about. because we tried it both ways, and we found it alot more responsive.

well from what i have planed ive got 2.5 inch pipe from turbo to the intercoler that run will be liek 2 ft long, 2.5 pipe from the intercooler to the throttle body,but that will be about 4 ft long,

the other way i have planed to run the pipes will be alot shorter prolly 50% but would leave me much less ground clearance and wont look as good

cool, sounds good....thats not alot of pipe at all, we would have to use more than that back in the day... throttle body was near fire wall.... good luck.

Dave, sounds similar to mine... If you are sticking with a draw-through MAF, my suggestion would be to convert to Speed Density... OMFG THE THROTTLE REPONSE ++!!

I know that's not a very Mod-like response... but seriously, NIGHT and DAY difference.

^^^ LMAO

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LOL, if you get more than about 10 miles out of it, consider yourself very lucky.

I'm assuming from your profile that you are Raven, and therefore you generally know what your talking about so why do not think he will be lucky to get 10 miles out of it? It looks to be in awesome shape.

try searching for xs_power. or ss autochrome

QFT!

XS Power is just a new name for SS AutoChrome......

Most people that used those turbos found that they were nice paper weights, after only a few miles.

thats so true, crappy manifolds, crappy turbo, bad company... stupid ebay for allowing companys that sell bad products to continue for so long, ive heard of manifolds not fitting flat against blocks, and turbos not being balanced properly. good luck none the less

hmm i didnt know that, every bad complaint i find is th eone that refers to the oone turbo were the housing split into 2,ther biggest bad thing i do see is that ppl complaining that the seals leak, well its to late now since i already bought it.but i know a shop that can rebalnce the wheels/shaft for me.
do there turbos use standard garret parts, if so i have a full t3/t4 rebuild kit,**** nm the turbo i bought is a ball bearing turbo,so id have to buy another kit

As far as ive heard, everything size wize, its ok, but you might also want to look at the compressor wheel, everyone i have ever seen seriously look like plastic.JUST CHECK....

well i will go thre the whole turbo,if something dosent look good i will replace it,even if i have to replace seals or a wheel it will still have cost me less then buying like a turbotechnics turbo etc

true

just an update, the turbo was planed to go in this comming weekend, but on friday night me and the gf drove to island dragway,and proceded to burn up the trans,so this wweekend will be a trans swap,and the follwing weekend will be the install weekend
only got to make one pass and it was bad didnt even make it ot the 1/8th went liek 12.08@59

You should do stand up.....

Check for a post about SSAC from a member called 89jyturbo. The thread should be in the power adder forum.

this project very sadly officially dead due to the fact i no longer have the car, so im on the lookout for another rs to buy to finish this project

Did you crash it or something??

whaaa!. fire or something?!?!

no the car is perfect other then a minor transmi9ssion problem, i brokew up with my gf,which the car is in her name,there is no chance of me getting it back cause she is pissed at me.so i am curently looking for a new v6 car,may possibly get rid of one of the v8 cars for the right v6 car.this time around im going with a fully built 2.8 including a gmpp light wieght racing block,which i will order once i find a new rs

Ill trade you mine for that 5-speed Iroc... You can even keep the engine if you want...

that may be a possibility, right now i have a line on a 92 with a 3.1,that i have to check out,ill let u know once i know whats going on with this deal

Your lucky you broke up now instead of later.

Girls are never forever. Just because they are all nuts and can change their mind widly for no reason.

never mix cars or friends with girls.
Cause ya don't wanna see her riding around in or on either after you break up.

now all your money can go to mods! i told my gf i like my cars and if she has a problem, too bad. you dont need a high maintnence car AND gf at the same time

well looks liek i will be pulling the stroker engine from my 86 iroc and droping in a 2.8 or 3.1 to turbo,since i cant find another rs,on the plus side ill already have the v8 suspension and **** that i would have had with the old rs

well i have great news I GOT THE RS BACK
so this project is once again alive and kicking, all work will resume the last weekend this month after i show the car at the cops and rodders car show

How did u manage to get it back? I hope u bought it off her. Cuz it wud suck u finish, and she decides to split again.

Let me guess:

The car needed work (trans etc.) and it was modded -> high maintenance. Your girlfriend being a typical woman can't really maintain the car herself and taking it to a mechaninc would cost a ton of money, so she kindly offers you the car ?

it was mine to begin with,since my liscence is suspended,the car was in her name cause the buick she had died,we had been dating over 2.5 years,we got into a hu8ge fight and she was being a bitch and wouldnt give it back.but thats all taken care of now

and actual;ly she could swap the trans herself,she is very mechanically inclined,everyhting from matnince to performance mods

Wow, a chick who is skilled in mechanics, that's rare. Good thing she gave you your car back.

Not a honda, but even the V8 guys do not want a piece of this guy...
Shepherd Racing - Your DSM transmission specialist! yes, that is 7.976 @179.06 in a AWD car. And yes, that is the current world record holder for an AWD platform.
and even has the vid...

I'm not trying to be a jerk and I don't want to stirr up a pot of sh** between the domestic faithful and the import crowd, but why the hell would someone want to dump that much work/cash into a Talon?!! You could get a domestic into the 8's for half of what he probably spent. I have to give him credit because it must've been hard to get it to hook with awd, but I'd rather stick with a good ol' rwd american car so I can without looking like a jackass. That said, I'm still deciding between turboing my 2.8 or going with a 350 so keep the pics coming this looks like a fun project.

Nope. Doward's running something obscenely non-stock now.. I'm running a MKIII Supra CT26, and it's a bit big for a 2.8l

any updates?

yeah the turbo i bought ended up having a bent shaft,so im about to buy a new one once i figure out the optimal turbo to run,though i will be starting work on the headers,and some of the other turbo realted work,come next week.was on hold till the cnr car show and the swap meet which was this past weekend

LMAO..... some of the greatest racing i have ever seen were AWD DSM's, You would have a harder time getting traction in a rwd , then awd. oh daves89rs, i have a friend who turbo's vipers here in houston, figure out what snail is needed, and i can talk to him about getting a good turbo, no ebay involved, it would have a receipt.

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ill call him tomarrow.... he works for RSI here in houston, im sure you can look them up.... good reputable shop, he the custom manifold/turbo guy, so ill let you know. he is the one who i dabbled with , the hondas.

thnx

so you guys can see this craziness....