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Old May 31, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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Hi i'm new, but wanted to introduce myself, and to hopefully lend a hand at some 2.8L mpfi questions. I'm 19 but i've rebuilt 2 of them now and have had 4 in my car (i'm rev happy and like drifting in ct snow LOL). I have a 1987 Chevy Camaro which I kind of like, kind of don't like. It was my first car and have spent a great deal of money on the car. I've put in new interior had almost every single piece out of the car now. I'm more into modding my 1990 Talon now, as i love turbo, and the thing is INCREDIBLE amounts faster than any of the 4 3rd gens i've had (87 camaro, 86 camaro, 86 iroc-z, and 92 RS). This is the only one I've liked because it's a 5spd. But here's some pics of it, and a link to my cardomain page, which has many more pics on. 1990 Eagle Talon - Derek's Eagle "brokeagain."


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Old May 31, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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Nice car. You can always put a turbo on there, too.

Been awhile since I've been in the V6 board since i no longer own one, but i think doward was making a turbo kit?
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Old May 31, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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Nice car. You can always put a turbo on there, too.

Been awhile since I've been in the V6 board since i no longer own one, but i think doward was making a turbo kit?
Has anyone ever put a 4.3L in one of these before? I'd love to do that. I'm looking for info on doing this.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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The search button is your best friend. TO my knowledge, no one has installed a 4.3L because it requires the exact same amount of work to do as it would to install a small block. The Trans, Motor, and ECM/Harness all have to be swaped out.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 2_point8_boy
The search button is your best friend. TO my knowledge, no one has installed a 4.3L because it requires the exact same amount of work to do as it would to install a small block. The Trans, Motor, and ECM/Harness all have to be swaped out.
that's perfect, i'm going for different and i want the room for the turbo/intercooler and piping. and i searched 4.3L, 4.3, 4.3 swap, nothing came up for any of them sooooooo probably not! thanks. I'm currently on a syclone/typhoon forum seeing what they do for upgrades, and problems and such.
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 12:45 AM
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I think the reason why most people do the 3.4 swap is because its pretty much the same motor just bored out a little more from the factory. everything bolts up to it the same and it goes in like it came off the line.

Nice little 60hp or so boost for a days work if done right.
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 12:48 AM
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its actually 25hp and 40lb/ft torque going from a 2.8 to a 3.4. but the 4.3 swap hasnt been done because its simply not worth it. its a 350 swap minus 2 cylinders. theyre torque engines.

btw, the 3.4 swap is a major upgrade, a day/night difference in power overall. there isnt a better bang-for-the-buck, unless you can do a turbo homemade.
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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Hey man whats up? Its Baron from over by the park. Im rebuilding my engine and was wondering if you could lend a hand, since youve had the pleasure of doing yours already someone with expeirance would be nice. After my engine is done Im gonna turbo it, maybe you could go turbo with me and we can get it done in a weekend or something.. catch ya later man..
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 69charger383
Hey man whats up? Its Baron from over by the park. Im rebuilding my engine and was wondering if you could lend a hand, since youve had the pleasure of doing yours already someone with expeirance would be nice. After my engine is done Im gonna turbo it, maybe you could go turbo with me and we can get it done in a weekend or something.. catch ya later man..
ya ask questions man, and maybe i can help ya a little one of these days. Well my turbo quest is coming up quicker than yours probably so we'll see. but 2.8 help i can do!
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by drdave88
its actually 25hp and 40lb/ft torque going from a 2.8 to a 3.4. but the 4.3 swap hasnt been done because its simply not worth it. its a 350 swap minus 2 cylinders. theyre torque engines.

btw, the 3.4 swap is a major upgrade, a day/night difference in power overall. there isnt a better bang-for-the-buck, unless you can do a turbo homemade.
actually yes I'll be doing a turbo homemade style. DSMs have been wonderous for me learning. And there's no way i'm putting in a 3.4 not for 25 hp. I hated the power in the camaro and this will be better.

Also i've already got a 4.3, wiring harness, ecu, and everything else laying around already. sooooooo i'm doing it!
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 10:53 AM
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actually yes I'll be doing a turbo homemade style. DSMs have been wonderous for me learning. And there's no way i'm putting in a 3.4 not for 25 hp. I hated the power in the camaro and this will be better.

Also i've already got a 4.3, wiring harness, ecu, and everything else laying around already. sooooooo i'm doing it!
so actually i lied, the guys over at - S10Forum.com helped me see that without INSANE work and the harder part for me is the money needed, i'm probably gonna pass and just sell the car and go to my other love of dsms. the hardest part to believe was that a stock bottom end in it can only hold like 280 whp, and the fuel/bottom end suck in them as well. I'd spend a fortune on fuel and tuning, nevermind building the engine at that price. if i'm spending $4000, it's not going to be on my camaro, it's going in my talon. it'll either get sold, or sit for another year or 10 until i decide to put a v8 in it. so does anyone wanna buy a really clean 87 camaro? lol
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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You should just put in a 3.4 and turbo that. The potential is there.
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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You should just put in a 3.4 and turbo that. The potential is there.
Probably not, I'm in love with my talon now, and have already spent $8000 on this camaro, I really was just looking to have like 300 hpish for as cheap as possible, and i figured i already had the engine, and turbo (dsm turbo) i could do it up cheap, but there's still too much, the flexibility in the engine management is awful for the thing. I was looking for a reason to keep the car, to have it mildly fun to drive.
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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I've driven an AWD turbo eclipse before. Very fast. very agile. There is just something about a camaro though, that would never let me sell mine. It may be just me, but I would turbo the 3.4. The bad engine management isnt an end all, it's a challenge. You can go with several different ecm's, or go with a megasquirt system. All possible.
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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I've driven an AWD turbo eclipse before. Very fast. very agile. There is just something about a camaro though, that would never let me sell mine. It may be just me, but I would turbo the 3.4. The bad engine management isnt an end all, it's a challenge. You can go with several different ecm's, or go with a megasquirt system. All possible.
LOL, well new headliner, seats, carpet, heater core, paint, 4 motors (one rebuilt) fixed the ac, completely new exhaust, every single emissions sensor, air diverter valve, brakes, wheel cylinders, clutch, radio, 5 power steering pumps, and more. almost $8000 spent without any labor, i did it all, and the car still barely runs right, it's to the point i'm ready to just cut my losses and bail.

on a side note- the first motor was bad when i got it, next one i rebuilt the bottom end and ended up, losing comp in one cylinder (bad rings i guess, they crumbled off) and wiped out crank, 3rd i hit a rock and got a hole in my oil pan, well you fill in the rest, and now i have my 4th one in! I don't want anymore!
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