um all I gotta say is your assuming. and making a bad one at that.

not going to say a whole lot but the only thing his car doesn't have is straight line speed other then that..... well bad assumption

 

 

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I don't see why people tell others what to do with their cars, sure you may have a V6 but its still a camaro or firebird, or if you have a 305 you aren't true performance (some have achieved this however, usually TPI) but you get reasonable gas mileage and the respect of a V8, and if you have a 350 or higher more power to you, you can make a monster. To put down a V6 when there are Grand Nationals and TTAs in this world is absurd.

 

Not trying to add fuel to the fire, but what have you been doing. I would like to read about the topic, not two guys fighting back and forth.
Just my

 

 

well ddr that was a little low I have to admit. nelapse your not guilt fee either.

you add some words then say this is worthless and just try to walk away.


eitherway though my car can smoke everyones so it's a worthless to argue anyway.

 

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well ok let me rephrase ya both are getting little out of hand.


but don't worry dean I already had a run in with him.

3" pipe on a v6 is bad cause it will create a vacuum and that hvacuum in the exhaust will ruin performance. all while saying that thread was worthless. I called him on it he then switches to backpressure is bad and scavenging is good and works by one pulse drafting the previous exhaust pulse all while going on about how the thread is worthless and he is right and I'm just here trying to bring him down and start problems.

I donno either way though

 

grand nationals are on a completely different level all together... I would like to see one of you V6 guys get a turbo 4.3 from a cyclone. I am sure everyone can agree those engines are sick. They are just so rare.

 

Once again the moderators are not moderating.... Wake up, anybody home?

Note to the moderators responsible for the V6 board.

Had you been on top of the job you signed on to do, this discussion would have been cleaned up a few days ago and this nosense deleted so as tho keep to the original subject posted.

What do I mean exactly?_ I'll help you. The original poster (sogabe) was asking in this forum(even though he made it apperent that it was "NOT" a V6 specific question) that how many people get friends and acquantances asking them why they drive an older car with potential problems- why not buy a new car that is generally deemed to be more troublefree.

THEN.... Nelaspe comes in here and strays the subject toward the engine size and not staying to the subject of the overall year of the car and its age being a problem regardless of V6, 4 or V8. He instigates a problem oh so non-chilantely by stating V6's aare slow and can be beaten by a civic. This was not the topic of discussion and lead to a troller slaming V6's in leuw of a V8 being a better car. The topic was old cars vs a brand new car in the reliablity standpoint.

So how about doing your job and erasing this stuff days ago when it first happened instead of the childish crap leading to this?

Thank you for your time- its youyr job to keep this stuff on topic by erasing all post straying from topic.
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He never said anything about the V6 being the problem and said nothing about making it faster.

The topic was reliabilty.

Get a clue Nelapse.

 

me like v6

Seriously, this went off topic long ago. I suggest starting a new thread with the same question in the History/Restoration thread. Posting this kind of thread in the V6 forum was asking for trouble.

 

 

Here we go again, this ***** keeps saying "I'm done with this childish discussion" yet keeps coming back running his mouth.

 

 

Sogabe writes:
Quote:
Originally Posted by nelapse
I didn't want to be rude but If you knew anything about customization you wouldnt have made this thread to begin with. If V6's got respect you wouldnt have made this thread. You made this thread to cry about how everyone disrespects the V6's... so tell me again how you are going to get the v6 respect you speak of?
this thread is turning into a pissing contest and it shouldnt be. I tried to be nice but when peoplke ask for opinions and when they are told the truth they get offended. do what ever you want bro ive said that from the get go.


Ill make it crystal clear,
the people who tell me to get a new car
are the ppl who doesnt know crap about cars,
and ppl who dont care bout cars as long as it looks new and runs good.
so they never told me to get a new car "caz its a v6 and its slow"
these arent racers im dealing with, i hope u get my point.
they are telling me caz mycar isnt as reliable(in general assumption)
not caz my car is slow.
ill make it reliable but for now i gotta admit it isnt the most reliable, oh well
i still like it.
i posted this on the v6 section caz i drive a 6, but i was applying this situation to whoever own a CAMARO, 6 or 8 dont matter, they are
still a CAMARO to me.
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Then you follow with:
Quote:
Originally Posted by sogabe
Ill make it crystal clear,
the people who tell me to get a new car
are the ppl who doesnt know crap about cars,
and ppl who dont care bout cars as long as it looks new and runs good.
so they never told me to get a new car "caz its a v6 and its slow"
these arent racers im dealing with, i hope u get my point.
they are telling me caz mycar isnt as reliable(in general assumption)
not caz my car is slow.
ill make it reliable but for now i gotta admit it isnt the most reliable, oh well
i still like it.
i posted this on the v6 section caz i drive a 6, but i was applying this situation to whoever own a CAMARO, 6 or 8 dont matter, they are
still a CAMARO to me.

How reliable your car is depends on you. there are alot of pos V8s and pos V6s. as long as you do the rountine maint you are suppose to you will get some miles out of that motor. the 2.8 i pulled out had 250000 miles on it. There is no debate on reliability. That depends on the driver. Its all about how you drive and take care of your investment
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Pull your head out of your *** and read it again- He tells you again that he's not worried about anything to do with his car being a V6 and for you to get off the subject.

you pathetic attempt to save face happens 5 posts of yours into the topic after people are blasting you back.

You're a trouble maker.

 

 

What the f*ck are you talkin' about dude?

This thread was about people telling you to buy a new car, and I see you've turned it into a pissing match about wether it's better to mod a v6 or blah blah blah...

Wrong thread.

Get off the crack!

 

I want to get two camaros lol. One with the Tire burner, and one with the long hauler engine.

My first car was a camaro. It was not the best car in the world. the body was straight with no huge visible rust spots. But I didn't know jack about cars. Was the 4 banger. Ran good for a year or so, but I ended up throwing a rod though the block. and still drove it home with a hole in the block the size of a baseball. I just liked the feel of the car even with no rear sway bar.

My girlfriend hated it lol. she hated the color, she hated it cause she says I loved it more then her, everything. The color was that weird banana yellow (the color of a banana after you peal it) I kept the body after the engine blew forever. I bought a few other camaros after that, mostly cheepies. a 84 2.8 (the same color as my first one lol) for 400$, Drove for a while but compression was horrible. a 85 305 Which was running when I was paying for it but ended up the motor was locked up after I finished. The car itself was beat to hell. So that was a waste lol. But I kept the trany.

at one point I had 5 third gen camaros in the yard. I was making a killing just selling parts lol. I finally ended up with a running 92 3.1. and thats when I finally got hooked on the v6. I kept the running 92 (couldtn register it) for parts. and bought a 91. First thing I did that I didn't like was strip out that darn air intake system. that little round air filter and tiny intake hole wouldtn cut it for me. I took the air filter system out of the 85 2.9 I had, with dual filters and got two K&N filters for it. Then I got some high end spark plugs, and cap and roter and wires, and I was getting damn good gas milage.

Will I ever get a new car? Maybe... If theres a v6 RS 2007 camaro lol if they produce that prototype hehe.

 

when they comeout with the new camaros I will bet you my paycheck there will be a V6, if i recall from car and driver or one of those car mags the new v6 they will use will be 200+ hp. and 400 for the v8
I want to say the v6 will be 250+ but I really cant remember... i'll look it up

 

ddr your car is a 6cyl you should go out and buy a new car cause it's slow and worthless


if anything you are one example on this board that a v6 can scoot. maybe no straight line scoot but in the turns. one who shows that a v6 can be made reliable and one for such and old car can be fun.


doward on the other hand has shown that these old run down v6 cars that are horrible and slow and worthless for some odd reason can be propelled to move fairly well in a straight line.


with the car being old so you should buy another one? ok guess they shouldn't look at any of the classics cause they are junk right?j


if I was in your guys shoes with an older camaro like this I would be fairly happy. parts are cheap and easy to come by. sure might not have a warrenty and sure you might have to work on it some and sure you might even have to pay some money to fix it. but it to me would be a lot cheaper then those monthly car payments that last for a few years.



point is be happy with what you have do with what you have as you can. it's your car do what you wnt to make you happy. fucterd everyone else unless you rely upon your car to make your friends.

 

I got your e-mail and tried to answer but it came back something about fatal address??? I 'm not bifg on Computer stuff. Anyways, the car in question you asked about I know nothing about and have never even been in one.

Thank you for the words on my Camaro. Fact is, this has been the wifes car like we all know and have heard from me countless times. I built it for here after years of her not letting me touch it- I modify everything I own- she wanted it left untouched until I became necessary that I fix what was getting old and tired.

When I did this, it responded so well with the lightweight V6 in it that I opted to keep it in it. I have been given 2 TPI 350's for free with harnesses and I declined them both for this car. I like the way it handles with the V6.

Now with that said, If I didn';t live in the **** state of So. Calif were we have the highest restrictions against modification deemed to mankind, I would in fact up it a bit more in the power department by installing a turbo setup or something of the sort (I have the money- somewhat, I make a good lkiving and could come by something like this within a month or so salary so its feesable in my pocket book) but I can not legally do it and I am still debating even building the 3.4 because I just don't know how much I can get away with under smog laws and if the cost is worth the restricted returns. The car is still very very fun as it is because it IS simply a daily driver and I would rather have the compromise of the extrodinary braking and handling and slow off the line rather than a decent off the line and just decent handling and braking. Barrelling down on a freeway cloverleaf in this car is something you have to experience to understand the true joy of just throwing it into a high speed hard braking corner- Its just in the blood, makes my hair stand on end. I don't want to loose this agility. I have straightspeed cars line cars. Heck, even my wortruck puts down about 320-340 HP and is no slouch and with the detroit locker in the Currie 9" I pound the crap out of it daily and it keep going and going- I have owned this truck since new in '89.

Long and short of it is- I will never own a 3rdgen with a V8 in it after having one so agile with this lightweight powerplant. I am going to pull my Vette out next week and take it up to Irwindale next thursday night and am actually kindof dreading the drive. This kid I have been mentoring in driving for years now has never been in it so I promised him a ride up to the raceschool in it. The Vette is so tiring to drive the noise and lack of comfort literally beats the crap out of you the hour up and then hour back home it will taker me to get there and back. This car puts down 540 RWhp and is a monster to drive on city streets. The 135 rwhp Camaro is so much more pleasurable of a car to drive than the Vette- hence why I love it even with the slower V6 because it carries its speed where others need to struggle and slow down.
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Guess I pissed off the moderators and lost my edit button for some reason.

So much for correcting my typing errors.
I also wanted to add to above and say I am even pondering the possiblity of putting something like a Cadillac STS motor into it if I could legally get away with it. I'll have to check when this current motor starts to get tired. Otherwide it will be as radical of a 3.4 as smog checks will allow both visually and tailpipe.

 

sorry old email setup
try rxspeed87 -at- msn.com

even if you haven't been in the car I'm sure you could still help. or at least so I would assume. and unlike last time I actually have a digi cam to take pictures this time

 

I've always thoguht it was fully how cars as soon as they drive off the lot their value goes down, down down till they are about 30 years old them poof value goes back up again.

I'm not sure that is exactly true anymore, just a plain standard ignition module now for the 3.1 is 30+$ anywhere you go. when I was working at advance autoparts, it was in the 20s. Still better then paying 60+ for the ones those distribitorless front wheel cars use though. Feel sorry for anyone needing a EGR, those things really break the bank at 100+ lol...

Right now we are in that "No one except fanatics wants them" catagory. espically the 90s. altho IMO, I've like the trim and air dams better as well as the spoiler (on the z28s) better. Most of the 80s cars that are still on the road usually have new engines that have been redone. Yet here we are still trying to keep our 150k+ milage original engines going. and the stock 140hp just don't cut it for running with any thing newer. Espically for a car that weaighs 3000lbs lol.

 

Why do I get the feeling Doward hasn't been hard enough on you guys? When I left I'm pretty sure everyone respected TGO's tech-only policy. Ah well, there's a cure to that

Non-Tech, Locked.

(Oh.. yeah.. and I'm back )