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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 11:28 PM
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"Why don't u just get a new car?"

no, Im not saying get a v8..

but how many of u got that "why dont u just get a newer/better car?"
from ur friends/parents/co-workers?

caz i get alot of it..

caz i do have number of small problems in mycar
and whenever that happens ppl just ask me why dont i get a better
car and give my camaro up..

im never gonna sell it and stuff, but just wondering
how many ppl been there.. caz it annoys me when ppl sugegsts me for new car!!
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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they are right. stay in school kids
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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yeah we all get that, you buy a project and nobody sees the potential in it, they all just say why didn't you just take all the money you spent on that car and buy a better one. but quite literally what could be better than something you restored with your own 2 hands? it's a good feeling to be driving a 3rd gen that you've built up by yourself.
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I tell people that I want to keep my car forever and work on it throughout my life, and some of them look at me like I'm nuts. When I graduate I'll get a new Daily driver, but I never want to get rid of the 'maro.
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but quite literally what could be better than something you restored with your own 2 hands? it's a good feeling to be driving a 3rd gen that you've built up by yourself.
That, plus around here, there are few third gens, and VERY few good looking third gens. I get lots o compliments from people about how nice a condition the car is. But I still get the look of confusion when I say I want to keep it for the rest of my life.

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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 12:31 AM
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seriously, i think i should go tell those guys who like to go fish
why dont u buy a fish from freaking cotsco already so they get the point maybe.
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My bird isnt perfect but everyone that i know likes it, but of course its an 84 and looks oldschool. though its been in the family its part stock car part daily driver. Ill never get rid of her.

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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sogabe
no, Im not saying get a v8..

but how many of u got that "why dont u just get a newer/better car?"
from ur friends/parents/co-workers?

caz i get alot of it..

caz i do have number of small problems in mycar
and whenever that happens ppl just ask me why dont i get a better
car and give my camaro up..

im never gonna sell it and stuff, but just wondering
how many ppl been there.. caz it annoys me when ppl sugegsts me for new car!!
They have OBVIOUSLY never owned/driven a camaro The name, the feel, the love in the car... that is why we drive these things!
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 12:54 AM
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but how many of u got that "why dont u just get a newer/better car?"

I havent got that attitude from people yet..I have thought about it though....I find if I go out and look at that maro in the carport or take the t-tops off for a cruise those feelings fly away.
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jstrdn90rs
but how many of u got that "why dont u just get a newer/better car?"

I havent got that attitude from people yet..I have thought about it though....I find if I go out and look at that maro in the carport or take the t-tops off for a cruise those feelings fly away.
Exactly! I have had that from a lot of people... when my car was "dieing." A week later I came flying down their street at 65 mph in a 35, hit and locked the front brakes and spun around, spun the tires and parked in the driveway. It's easy to spend 2k to get something living again It was well worth the looks on their faces!!!
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 01:22 AM
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My favorite respose is to ask what they spent in there current POS if its nicer that my car 90% chance it cost more than $2000, i know i got lucky and had the car given to me by my sis but it was a pos at the time. If i were to put even $500 into my car every time they bought a new junker for there daily i would have a nice car while there still throwing money down the drain and they have nothing to show for while i have a Nice reliable car that is cool looking to boot and while it has no lowend it is still snappy on the highway.

If i were to have bought it it would have cost mabe $500 or $600, i have a paint job on it would have cost about $200(crappy but effective rust stopper) but my old boss shot it for me for free(extra paint), mabe $300 max in parts mostly in front suspention rebuild so if i were to take that $500 yearly they spend or $2000 every few years i would end up with a car that i know is reliable and with that money refurbishing it i would have a like new car in no time. you could redo the Whole suspention/steering with brand new MOOG parts for under $1000 heck that even includes SFCs and and the front end braces.

Spend $5000 and you could have a car that will last as long as a new one and be just as reliable. I have look up the prices on all these things and $1000 on fresh engine, $1000 on a trans, that $1000 for a suspention rebuild and still have $2000 for Interior and paint. Make the engine $2000 for a remanned and really have nothing to worry about.

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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 01:53 AM
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i tell them,
my car isnt as good as some 06 brand new cars,
but if i didnt want to, i'd have a running car
and pay only for my gas, nothing else.

where they haev to pay 300+$ monthly.

i do spend more than that every month anyways caz i am always getting somethin new and custom
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 03:16 AM
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i have gotten that before. i have even thought about selling the fbody(s) before. usualy while trying to troubleshoot somthing... but then i walk outside and look at my car, and a huge grin crosses my face. the sense of pride you get from "a job well done" can't be replaced. everytime i drive my cars i get that feeling. besides, some folks don't get that we like working on them. even when i am just replacing tail lights i am having a good time.

questions like that one remind me why i love my cars. and why i wilol always own an fbody. my plan is to keep my GTA until i die. i don't know if that will work out, but i do know i will always own an fbody. probably a thidgen fbody, and more then likley a firebird, not a camaro. i could drive a camaro, but only if i had a bird at home too.
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 04:16 AM
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I don't get that for the third gen, but I constantly get that for my daily driver, a 1989 pontiac 6000 even though it never really gives any problems that are so serious. They just say that based on it's age and stuff.....thinking of which, where do they have the right to say stuff like that??? lol

Anyway, my response?


"Well...yeah..yeah....as soon as you give me a check to buy a new car" lol
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 05:34 AM
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i dont realy get why dont you buy something new but from people at my school i get why arnt you driving your old car all the time, i was kinda a landmark. (74 monte carlo)
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 09:22 AM
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Nobody ask me that, because they all know I enjoy working on cars.

I have had one person that didint know me ask "why dont you get something more reliable". I looked at them and said "I do, its in the garage at home, but I like this one more". They walked off.
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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caz i do have number of small problems in mycar
and whenever that happens ppl just ask me why dont i get a better
car and give my camaro up

hush up and just get a better car


Old Jul 4, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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actually though I can't say much. I'm ni just about the same boat with you guys with the rx7 crowd. my car is N/A so it has no potential cause only turbo cars can go fast. with the domestic crowd my car sucks cause it's an import. with those that just don't car about performance my car sucks cause it has over 200k miles on it, frmo the import side my car is alright only cause it's a rx7.


then comes my honda... well I would get shuned by even the honda crowd cause mines ol' skool. lets just say my honda can pass as a classic.

with either car I wouldn't give them up easily. that honda is a joy to drive. very good daily driver, great gas, and EASY TO WORK ON. plus very fun on the dirt roads. my rx7 is my fun car why should I give it up? I've spent enough money on it alraedy why just let it go?
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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The best part is when you pass one of those that tell you to get a new car on the interstate in your camaro and their on the side of the road waiting for the tow truck. Then you can flip the script on them and say get you a RELIABLE car. Which is what my 87 is to me. So they can either love it or hate it.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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I like my car, she is reliable... and by reliable means just that! I helped fix her and I know everything I have done to her was done correctly and it has lifetime warranty (except trans... 12 month warranty, and tires). But, I do keep my mom's Jimmy available in case I need to pick up a part where I can't drive with the car to get... ie: when my heater valve broke, antifreeze was leaking everywhere in the engine compartment... I had to use the Jimmy for that.

But anyways, it's piece of mind. I have taken my car 1/2 apart and I know she will get me to where I need to go and back w/o hassle

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im never gonna sell it and stuff, but just wondering
how many ppl been there.. caz it annoys me when ppl sugegsts me for new car!!
Trying to read all that just made my hangover worse, but to answer your question, I've had a few people ask me why I didn't get a new car back when I bought my firebird.

"Because it just costs too much" I always reply.

Same as when I was talking about getting a truck recently. A '99 or so Ram still costs around 10k I think, and a 94 costs more like 5k. I'll probably just get a 94.
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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The same people that tell you to go get a new car now, are the same ones that will be telling you your stupid when you end up in the dealership for recalls, costly service appointments, high monthly car payments, premium insurance rates....etc etc. Get my drift?

F*ck 'em.

Do what you want to do. Don't listen to others so much.

I haven't had my car out so much lately in the last 4 years that people don't ask me how I'm doin' when they see me, they ask me "How's the camaro?"

Like WTF?!

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The only person who tells me to buy a new vehicle is my wife. I tell her why, so I can have a 5 year car payment like you? When I do take my car out all I get is stares, thumbs up, and people saying nice car I like driving older reliable, paid for vehicles.
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I hear that everytime I do an engine swap,....... or just get rid of it.
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Originally Posted by 82 Iron Duke
The only person who tells me to buy a new vehicle is my wife. I tell her why, so I can have a 5 year car payment like you? When I do take my car out all I get is stares, thumbs up, and people saying nice car I like driving older reliable, paid for vehicles.
thats one hell of an iron duke
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thats one hell of an iron duke

And a gas saver to boot
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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And a gas saver to boot
let me guess you save cause you can't afford to drive it around as a daily driver?
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This is a timeless discussion, it has been discussed since the creation of these legendary abominations of steel have been created.

Here is fact, The V6's are slow, 4 cylinder civics will eat you alive. If you are stock. The aftermarket for these motors are almost non-existant.

Here is what you need to do, What you need to build depends on what you want. If you are looking for 500rwhp with a 3.1 you might as well give up. If you are looking to just fix up what you have or make it a little more peppy than what you have than I bow before your courage or maybe even ignorance. There is no shame in doing your own thing. If you talk about making an 11 second car you will be laughed at I promise you.

My car was once a 2.8. It will be cheaper to put a 350 in your car to get the same HP that 350 does than that V6. UNfortunately that is just they way it is.

Do not say you are going to hook up your V6 to be different because you arent different you are ignorant. There are thousands of people saying they are going to make the fastest V6.

Now there are some people who are just awesome enough to make an awesome underdog motor... such as mw66nova who decided to build an awesome 305 when everyone says get a 350. He runs 12's btw.

Do what you want, its yours, you ask for opinions you might not like what you hear. Whatever you V6 guys decide I wish you luck... you will need it. Just make us proud.
HP is not a thing, I owned an 82 SC with the Duke and I loved that car great mileage and a beautiful car to boot. I sold her for $2500 and purchased a 400hp Iroc for $850 I miss my Duke
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Originally Posted by nelapse
This is a timeless discussion, it has been discussed since the creation of these legendary abominations of steel have been created.

Here is fact, The V6's are slow, 4 cylinder civics will eat you alive. If you are stock. The aftermarket for these motors are almost non-existant.

Here is what you need to do, What you need to build depends on what you want. If you are looking for 500rwhp with a 3.1 you might as well give up. If you are looking to just fix up what you have or make it a little more peppy than what you have than I bow before your courage or maybe even ignorance. There is no shame in doing your own thing. If you talk about making an 11 second car you will be laughed at I promise you.

My car was once a 2.8. It will be cheaper to put a 350 in your car to get the same HP that 350 does than that V6. UNfortunately that is just they way it is.

Do not say you are going to hook up your V6 to be different because you arent different you are ignorant. There are thousands of people saying they are going to make the fastest V6.

boosted 3.1's routinley put down 300 hp at low boost levels and over 350ftlbs,and thats on a bone stock motor.the cost of my entire setup - without the engine mods was under 810$'s,(engine mods are ported intake/heads,and forged pistions,but theres guys running the same boost level as me on stock cast pistions.will the motor live under that much boost and be reliable?Yes it will be if it is tuned properly and u avoid detonation.on th eother hand if its tuned bad and runs lean/detonates its not gonna last long at all.oh and to boot my gas milage hasnt changed much since i put the turbo on,just a minor decrease.do that with a gen 1 sbc,for under 810$'s INcluding the cost of the engine/trans swap and still have good street maners it cant be done.and i should know cause i have a 12 sec v6 camaro and one low 13sec.and an 11 sec camaro.and ya wanna know which one is the most fun to drive the turbo v6 of course


edit and btw 11 sec v6 camaros dont exsist ?quess again i can show u atleast a handful of v6 camaros going in the 11,s mine soon to be one of them

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heck, between my 14.3@95 350CID GTA and my estimated 17sec 2.8 my 2.8 is more fun to drive daily. why? well, i'll tell you. it handles better (soon to be fixed) and it is a stick (to be fixed within 6 months, i have the gear, but no plans to install yet). i also don't mind being able to get 300 miles per tank. now, once i rework my suspension, and swap in my WC-T5 it might be another story.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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For me there is two options. 1-To swap in a big block. 2-To make my v6 the best it can be. And seeing how I dont have a big block laying around...
Plus I like having my v6 and the perks of it(lower ins., better handling, better MPG)
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Originally Posted by nelapse
I never said an 11 second V6 never exsisted. I said you'll be laughed at. Its kinda like a 10 second honda, no matter what you will never get more respect than the big dogs. i dont make the rules or say thats the way it should be.... i just tell it like it is unfortunately. You can make a 1000hp civic, and probably the same for the crappy 2.8 and 3.1 but that doesnt mean that every guy in here that talks about how there dad is a pro racer and there uncle is a mechanic and my grandmas has this and that are going to make an awesome car. People have to look at the facts. People who turbo v6's understand what they are getting themselves inito and they do it to prove a point. Every joe here talking about how they are sick of people telling them to get a V8, if they want power it is the best route and your how ever many V6 turbo buddies would agree that there is alot of fabrication and work involved, more than the average joe here can handle. if you have to ask what kinda mods you need to get globs of hp on a V6 chances are you have no business trying to fabricate a turbo.
As i said before. do what you think is right, stick to your guns and make us proud.
what the hell r u talking about?
why wouldnt ppl respect a fast v6 more than a v8?
it takes so much more effort and time and probably custom work, especialy for 3rd gen v6,
where if u got a 383 its a lot easier to just get a fast car.
v6 will never be as fast, but doesnt mean it'll never be as respected.
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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What I find funny is that people will get a 40k (us dollars) car, but won't buy a Camaro for a few grand and put 30k in mods in it... what's the difference?

The camaro will look bad@$$ as well as run like a dream, and have it your way... it will be BETTER than a new car!!!

So, logically... why not spend the cash and "get a new car" meaning build your own new (old camaro) car??
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sogabe
seriously, i think i should go tell those guys who like to go fish
why dont u buy a fish from freaking cotsco already so they get the point maybe.
Hey we sell alot of fish at costco .
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Its only the truth by your oppinion not ours. I have built close to 40 V8s of different types and for different uses, the fact is i am tired of them i want some thing new and thats what alot of other people feel to. I dont want to put a V8 in this car cause its a V6 i dont like to do a bunch of slaping different parts together, if i want to drive a V8 i will go get one of my family members cars. I have 6 to choose from, but i find this car more fun for anything other than the drag strip even with its wornout suspention it still handles better than any of the V8 powered cars.
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by xplane
Its only the truth by your oppinion not ours. I have built close to 40 V8s of different types and for different uses, the fact is i am tired of them i want some thing new and thats what alot of other people feel to. I dont want to put a V8 in this car cause its a V6 i dont like to do a bunch of slaping different parts together, if i want to drive a V8 i will go get one of my family members cars. I have 6 to choose from, but i find this car more fun for anything other than the drag strip even with its wornout suspention it still handles better than any of the V8 powered cars.
There is nothing wrong with that. You want the car for what it is. You arent asking how to make it a 10 second car or asking what you can do to make it as good as a V8. Thats the whole point.
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DRR
nelapse,

I laugh at people like you that put all their money into making their ONLY CAR and daily driver into some wantabe superfast racecar.

I like my V6, I don't race idiots on the street with wantabee superfast dailydrivers that break down every month. I have my racecars that I take out on the weekends to the track to shut up people like you. My V6 remains my family car and a daily driver like I intentionally built it to be.

So make us proud, by another car so you don't look foolish. If you do already have another car- maybe you'd like to try and race my "other car V6" on an autox course for pinkslips? Afterall, autox is the closest racing to actually street driving.

We it comes down to facts, I can drive my V6 around faster than anyone else's V8 on these boards because when it comes to safety on daily streets, I can stop and swerve better than any other 3rdgen on these boards in normal street use- Its the perfect cruiser- I mean relistically, how much time do you spend accelerating in a daily driver? minimal, you spend most time @ cruising speeds and defensive driving.

Nelaspe, Do you realise if WE were cruising down the freeway side by side at 60MPH and there was an accident happening right in front of us that (IF your factory brakes are in perfect new condition and IF you have decent performance tires) you are going to stop in about 145ft and I am going to stop in about 105ft (this car has done a recorded 102ft 60-0). I will stop 40 feet sooner than you and most likely you are going to plow right into the accident seen and become part of it because youwere also too busy trying to intimidate me and inch in front of me with your V8 rather than drivng and watching the road.

I'm assuming your car isn't a stock v6
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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well OK i do agree that it is about as stupid as it gets to try to make a V6 into a drag car. now doing roadracing or the like where weight balance and nose weight makes a difference then it is a good choice.
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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so it woudl be wrong if I tried to get my 76 accord as fast as a 305 tbi?
or maybe even a tpi
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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not wrong just that it dont seem very smart to me to spend a **** load of money to go 11's or 12's when that same money on a V8 would get you into the 9's or so probably. its just a matter of preference, spend your money where you want to. i see fast imports on a regulay basis but i would never build one or own one i just dont like them.
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nelapse
I didn't want to be rude but If you knew anything about customization you wouldnt have made this thread to begin with. If V6's got respect you wouldnt have made this thread. You made this thread to cry about how everyone disrespects the V6's... so tell me again how you are going to get the v6 respect you speak of?
this thread is turning into a pissing contest and it shouldnt be. I tried to be nice but when peoplke ask for opinions and when they are told the truth they get offended. do what ever you want bro ive said that from the get go.
Ill make it crystal clear,
the people who tell me to get a new car
are the ppl who doesnt know crap about cars,
and ppl who dont care bout cars as long as it looks new and runs good.
so they never told me to get a new car "caz its a v6 and its slow"
these arent racers im dealing with, i hope u get my point.
they are telling me caz mycar isnt as reliable(in general assumption)
not caz my car is slow.
ill make it reliable but for now i gotta admit it isnt the most reliable, oh well
i still like it.
i posted this on the v6 section caz i drive a 6, but i was applying this situation to whoever own a CAMARO, 6 or 8 dont matter, they are
still a CAMARO to me.
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DRR
nelapse,

I laugh at people like you that put all their money into making their ONLY CAR and daily driver into some wantabe superfast racecar.

I like my V6, I don't race idiots on the street with wantabee superfast dailydrivers that break down every month. I have my racecars that I take out on the weekends to the track to shut up people like you. My V6 remains my family car and a daily driver like I intentionally built it to be.

So make us proud, by another car so you don't look foolish. If you do already have another car- maybe you'd like to try and race my "other car V6" on an autox course for pinkslips? Afterall, autox is the closest racing to actually street driving.

We it comes down to facts, I can drive my V6 around faster than anyone else's V8 on these boards because when it comes to safety on daily streets, I can stop and swerve better than any other 3rdgen on these boards in normal street use- Its the perfect cruiser- I mean relistically, how much time do you spend accelerating in a daily driver? minimal, you spend most time @ cruising speeds and defensive driving.

Nelaspe, Do you realise if WE were cruising down the freeway side by side at 60MPH and there was an accident happening right in front of us that (IF your factory brakes are in perfect new condition and IF you have decent performance tires) you are going to stop in about 145ft and I am going to stop in about 105ft (this car has done a recorded 102ft 60-0). I will stop 40 feet sooner than you and most likely you are going to plow right into the accident seen and become part of it because youwere also too busy trying to intimidate me and inch in front of me with your V8 rather than drivng and watching the road.
I am trying to figure out what you are crying about. My car is not a daily driver and you know nothing about my braking system or suspension. you are speculating. i also do not street race. But if braking and weight are your only advantages you are still way behind the game. I have compete on autocross countless trimes , so just because you drove around a couple cones you think you are a better driver than everyone else? i dont think so. nothing will out do experience, and cones do not come close to someone pulling out in front of you or some little kids basketball. This post of yours makes no sense to me, infact its childish, want to autocross me for pinkslips because you think you can hang with the big boys... thats cute. i admit I havent has a thirdgen long but I built some autocross cars, i am not saying im the best because supposively you are.... but i am better than than your 16yr old whining.

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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sogabe
Ill make it crystal clear,
the people who tell me to get a new car
are the ppl who doesnt know crap about cars,
and ppl who dont care bout cars as long as it looks new and runs good.
so they never told me to get a new car "caz its a v6 and its slow"
these arent racers im dealing with, i hope u get my point.
they are telling me caz mycar isnt as reliable(in general assumption)
not caz my car is slow.
ill make it reliable but for now i gotta admit it isnt the most reliable, oh well
i still like it.
i posted this on the v6 section caz i drive a 6, but i was applying this situation to whoever own a CAMARO, 6 or 8 dont matter, they are
still a CAMARO to me.
How reliable your car is depends on you. there are alot of pos V8s and pos V6s. as long as you do the rountine maint you are suppose to you will get some miles out of that motor. the 2.8 i pulled out had 250000 miles on it. There is no debate on reliability. That depends on the driver. Its all about how you drive and take care of your investment
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