New cold air intake V6
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New cold air intake V6
Finally, after searching forever for an aftermarket CAI, I found one on eBay. I love it. My old setup was shot, so performance was increased alot. Fitment was pretty accurate except I did have to cut 2 inches off the pipe coming straight out of the intake before the elbow. It would have fit, but would have made the elbow angle alot more severe which would hinder airflow. All in all took me a half hour tops.
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OLD SETUP(it sucked...no pun intended):
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OLD SETUP(it sucked...no pun intended):
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Re: New cold air intake V6
If you have a Ram Air II hood, why not just have a ram air setup?
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Long time ago when I was shipped the hood, they sent me a non functional one. It could easily be made functional, but ram-air on V6 is dumb. I doubt there will be any power gains at all. Would probably just suck in a lot of hot air.
Once my engine swap is finished, I'll make the hood functional and install a Ram-Air intake.
Once my engine swap is finished, I'll make the hood functional and install a Ram-Air intake.
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youre sucking more warm air with your underhood intake than you would with a ram air hood, which pulls in 100% outside air. even if it is by the headlights, its still gonna draw some amount of air from under the hood. the setup on a camaro(not an option on yours sadly) and a ram air hood would be a true Cold Air Intake.
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Bottom line, this was a hell of alot cheaper and less work than a ram air setup.
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firebird guys need to do this, but for those of you with camaros your better off with the dual snorkel air box the car came with with good filters and a gutted box. unless you just want the "coolness" of an intake. but it looks good on the bird no doubt.
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I dont think this will fit a camaro anyway. There isnt room for where the filter sits..right? I don't know as much about camaros as I do about Firebirds.
I found it on ebay. Here is an open link to his auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PONTI...QQcmdZViewItem
I found it on ebay. Here is an open link to his auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PONTI...QQcmdZViewItem
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i think it would fit, ur engine bay is almost the same as my 92 camaro. idk i could be wrong, i think they say "firebird only" so that camaro owners by the more expansive "camaro cold air intake"
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if you have a camaro, your best bet is to get the dual snorkel set up off some of the v6 and v8 camaros earlier. it is a true cold air intake as the air inlet is in front of the radiator. do a search for this and theres a few ways to modify it. it is the best way to go with a camaro.
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thats what i did, i just bought some k&n filters and cut off the bottome of the air box. i think the CAI are just ugly though. they look like something that should by one a neon IMO. plus with that setup your just sucking in warm air. it def lookes better than the old one, but kind of pointless. Thread Starter
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read up...not compatible with a firebird
and like i said...until the new engine is in with ram air..I'm keeping this. Looks good, functional...better than stock which is drawing air from the same exact spot..
and like i said...until the new engine is in with ram air..I'm keeping this. Looks good, functional...better than stock which is drawing air from the same exact spot..
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Re: New cold air intake V6
Only difference with the Camaro is that the Batter / Smog pumps area's are switched. It'd work on a Camaro, you'd just flip the 90 degree bend around and it'd sit on the other side of the engine bay.
I think you should've just made yourself a Ram Air box. You're gonna need one eventually and you'd be able to use it for the new engine too.
I think you should've just made yourself a Ram Air box. You're gonna need one eventually and you'd be able to use it for the new engine too.
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Re: New cold air intake V6
and thats a no no?
i appreciate people opinions, but not when they are telling me what to and what not to do with my car like they no everything. Yes its visible..no way to recess it without it getting kicked. There are neons that light of my foot wells when I open the door. Thats all.
i appreciate people opinions, but not when they are telling me what to and what not to do with my car like they no everything. Yes its visible..no way to recess it without it getting kicked. There are neons that light of my foot wells when I open the door. Thats all.
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whatever man..leave the boards if you want to make fun of people. Putting a neon light doesnt make the car a rice-rocket.
Jeez you guys are immature.
Jeez you guys are immature.
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It definitly does look way better and cleaner than the old one you had. Nice job.
And about the neons: I've got once on each side, and two strobes in the back. Can't get more rice than that, but it's not like I drive around with them on, I really use them for extra light when I need it, or just to make people go "Hah, that's awesome. Did you do that yourself?" It's like a party in the back of my car. Plus you can't really notice them if they're off anyway.
And I get the satisfaction of saying, "Yes, I did. Thank you."
And about the neons: I've got once on each side, and two strobes in the back. Can't get more rice than that, but it's not like I drive around with them on, I really use them for extra light when I need it, or just to make people go "Hah, that's awesome. Did you do that yourself?" It's like a party in the back of my car. Plus you can't really notice them if they're off anyway.
And I get the satisfaction of saying, "Yes, I did. Thank you."
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r1cers 
oh wait... um I drive an import don't i... AH Crap
best thing I can think of yo udoing is building a box around the filter to shield it from the engine bay and drill some through the front area around your lights and that way it can suck some cold air. but then again it's been a little while sinceI have seen the engine bay of a firebird so can't recall right off hand whats around there that you would need to worry about.

oh wait... um I drive an import don't i... AH Crap

best thing I can think of yo udoing is building a box around the filter to shield it from the engine bay and drill some through the front area around your lights and that way it can suck some cold air. but then again it's been a little while sinceI have seen the engine bay of a firebird so can't recall right off hand whats around there that you would need to worry about.
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It definitly does look way better and cleaner than the old one you had. Nice job.
And about the neons: I've got once on each side, and two strobes in the back. Can't get more rice than that, but it's not like I drive around with them on, I really use them for extra light when I need it, or just to make people go "Hah, that's awesome. Did you do that yourself?" It's like a party in the back of my car. Plus you can't really notice them if they're off anyway.
And I get the satisfaction of saying, "Yes, I did. Thank you."
And about the neons: I've got once on each side, and two strobes in the back. Can't get more rice than that, but it's not like I drive around with them on, I really use them for extra light when I need it, or just to make people go "Hah, that's awesome. Did you do that yourself?" It's like a party in the back of my car. Plus you can't really notice them if they're off anyway.
And I get the satisfaction of saying, "Yes, I did. Thank you."
Thank you, same idea i had.
r1cers 
oh wait... um I drive an import don't i... AH Crap
best thing I can think of yo udoing is building a box around the filter to shield it from the engine bay and drill some through the front area around your lights and that way it can suck some cold air. but then again it's been a little while sinceI have seen the engine bay of a firebird so can't recall right off hand whats around there that you would need to worry about.

oh wait... um I drive an import don't i... AH Crap

best thing I can think of yo udoing is building a box around the filter to shield it from the engine bay and drill some through the front area around your lights and that way it can suck some cold air. but then again it's been a little while sinceI have seen the engine bay of a firebird so can't recall right off hand whats around there that you would need to worry about.
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u can take that one step further,if u get a holesaw and put a 3.5 inch hole right nexto the charchol canister u can run the airfilter in front of the wheel well behind the bumper cover,its pretty sealed off from water in there,but if u are worried about it u can buy a 20$ bypass valve that goes into the cai.
what it does is if the filter picks up water the bypass opens allowing air to enter back under the hood,stoping all suction at the filter end until the water drains out,the the bypass closes and air is sucked back threw the filter again.
its how i ran my intercooler pipes just on the oposite side,when i get off this dialup ill post some piucs of the area so u cab see exact;y what i mean.
is a nice ebay cai though
what it does is if the filter picks up water the bypass opens allowing air to enter back under the hood,stoping all suction at the filter end until the water drains out,the the bypass closes and air is sucked back threw the filter again.
its how i ran my intercooler pipes just on the oposite side,when i get off this dialup ill post some piucs of the area so u cab see exact;y what i mean.
is a nice ebay cai though
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I agree with noah, you should have implimented the ram air hood, and yes the ram air would make a noticeable difference...
Looks good, though.
Beat you to it... :rofl:


As you can see, my charcoal can stayed - just moved.
If you have a good filter and a sock that goes over it, water shouldn't be a problem, some of my buds have a snorkel sticking up past the roof of their Jeeps open to the elements. One of them has no sock on it and has no problems (he swapped his Jeep motor for a Cummins diesel, and it's bad-to -the-bone
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Looks good, though.
its how i ran my intercooler pipes just on the oposite side,when i get off this dialup ill post some piucs of the area so u cab see exact;y what i mean.


As you can see, my charcoal can stayed - just moved.
what it does is if the filter picks up water the bypass opens allowing air to enter back under the hood,stoping all suction at the filter end until the water drains out,the the bypass closes and air is sucked back threw the filter again.
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cool!
I dont think I'll ever go that far.
Ram Air huh? Maybe once I move I'll look into making the hood functional. Besides ust cuttingout the back piece of fiberglas, what about water going trhough the vents? use the same bypass idea? Once the bypass is enabled..where is it sucking the air from. If not through the filter then where?
I dont think I'll ever go that far.
Ram Air huh? Maybe once I move I'll look into making the hood functional. Besides ust cuttingout the back piece of fiberglas, what about water going trhough the vents? use the same bypass idea? Once the bypass is enabled..where is it sucking the air from. If not through the filter then where?
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yes its only unfiltered if the airfilter picks up water,and even then its only unfiltered long enough for the water to run out of it.
i donno about u but id much rather have a few seconds of unfiltered air vs sucking up some water and hydrolocking the engine lol
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here ya go
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/pe...rformance.html
i donno about u but id much rather have a few seconds of unfiltered air vs sucking up some water and hydrolocking the engine lol
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here ya go
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/pe...rformance.html
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Re: New cold air intake V6
I know a few years back AEM had one that would filter the air still when it went into bypass. more or less it was just rubber flaps that would open up when the pressure dropped too low but when the flaps opened it was more or less just opening up another filter.
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/pe...rformance.html
EDIT:dang it didn't see your link that went to the same spot... to the same car...
oh well i tried. you win dave.
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/pe...rformance.html
EDIT:dang it didn't see your link that went to the same spot... to the same car...
oh well i tried. you win dave.
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None apply to a firebird. Just purchase anyone? And where does this thing mount/install?
And back to the hood. People with functional ones...is there some sort of baffle for the water like sun coast customs with the ramair 1 hood..or is it really just a hole on the other side?
Sorry I ask so many questions...only way to learn.
And back to the hood. People with functional ones...is there some sort of baffle for the water like sun coast customs with the ramair 1 hood..or is it really just a hole on the other side?
Sorry I ask so many questions...only way to learn.
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u need to get one that is the same size as ur intake tubing thats all.
as far as the ramair hood setup i think theres some sort of baffle to stop the water,but im not sure u would have to talk to somone with the setup
as far as the ramair hood setup i think theres some sort of baffle to stop the water,but im not sure u would have to talk to somone with the setup
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i read up on my hood from ramirhood.com (where i bought it). They apparently have 4 water shields to stop the water from going inside the filter, howver since I bought a non functional one a long time ago (bad mistake) I'm wondering if I have these shields or if I can retrofit them in to my hood? I sent them an email...well see what they come up with.
Im so tempted to go with ram air right now and sell this CAI. The water just worries me. I dont want to rely just on the bypass ya know?
Im so tempted to go with ram air right now and sell this CAI. The water just worries me. I dont want to rely just on the bypass ya know?
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u would pretty much have to submerge the filter in water for it to hurt the engine
the byopass is just cheap insurance the chances of u actually sucking up enough water to do damage is slim
the byopass is just cheap insurance the chances of u actually sucking up enough water to do damage is slim
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One thing you can do if you haven't allready thats real simple and is in no way permanent: The metal pan holding the smog canister in place is only held down by 3 easy to get to bolts. I removed mine to give my filter some more room, because it was sitting right up against the canister and my MAF was smashed against the coolant hose right there.
Removing that metal panel gave me some more room, took some pressure off that hose, and I actually was able (not from removing the panel) to move the connection around so that my MAF isn't up against the hose, just the tubing, which still heats it up, but is probably better for the sensor.
I did have to drill 2 new holes for the smog to bolt to, so I guess there is something permanent that comes out of this, but on the positive side, my smog canister was lowered probably and inch and a half, looks nicer and leaves you open to more easily moving it if need be.
You would probably have to do this anyway if you do ever plan on drilling a hole to run tubing into the wheel well.
Edit: Sorry, just noticed on your year the coolant hose is on the other side. Oh well, it was a plus for me...I wonder why the factory changed that?
Edit again, last one I swear: Just wanted to throw it out there because I noticed...that resevoir tank is HUGE. Mine is like half that size. Ok I'm done.
Removing that metal panel gave me some more room, took some pressure off that hose, and I actually was able (not from removing the panel) to move the connection around so that my MAF isn't up against the hose, just the tubing, which still heats it up, but is probably better for the sensor.
I did have to drill 2 new holes for the smog to bolt to, so I guess there is something permanent that comes out of this, but on the positive side, my smog canister was lowered probably and inch and a half, looks nicer and leaves you open to more easily moving it if need be.
You would probably have to do this anyway if you do ever plan on drilling a hole to run tubing into the wheel well.
Edit: Sorry, just noticed on your year the coolant hose is on the other side. Oh well, it was a plus for me...I wonder why the factory changed that?
Edit again, last one I swear: Just wanted to throw it out there because I noticed...that resevoir tank is HUGE. Mine is like half that size. Ok I'm done.
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