Super Score!!!
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Super Score!!!
I found TWO COMPLETE sets of twin snorkle intake setups (like on the TPI) at a junk yard, for $21.50!!!! Now, one of the cars I intend to put it on is a 92 3.1 V6 Camaro. I have it mounted and the the stock flexy rubber intake hose dosent reach, and is too small to clamp on anyway. So do I go to autozone and try to build something out of the import section to connect this? This was a steal of a deal and it WONT be wasted, I just dont want to have some Duct tape lookin craftsmanship up under there. Would really appreciate some help.
Not that there's anything wrong with Duct Tape. ROFLOL
Thanks,
Not that there's anything wrong with Duct Tape. ROFLOL
Thanks,
Last edited by myvmax1; May 8, 2008 at 01:52 AM.
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Re: Super Score!!!
If you scored the V6 version of the intake, your in luck. It had a temp sensor mounting hole, whereas the TPI one doesn't.
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Re: Super Score!!!
I dunno what the V6s use, but the TPI uses, basically, a WATER temp sensor and it gets heat soaked by the manifold. Whereas the TBIs use a TRUE air temperature sensor, giving a better reading for the ECM. When I did mine, I noticed that the throttle response, after the engine had gotte hot/warmed up, was just as crisp as when it was cold, because the metal wasn't affecting the reading to the ECM. Now, yours in already in the "cold" plastic, so that helps, but the TBI (if the V6 sensor isn't the same) will help you too.
This article is more about relocating a TPI sensor, but also addresses useing a TBI sensor instead, which is applicable to your V6.
http://www.austinthirdgen.org/index.php?pid=24
This article is more about relocating a TPI sensor, but also addresses useing a TBI sensor instead, which is applicable to your V6.
http://www.austinthirdgen.org/index.php?pid=24
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Re: Super Score!!!
I can handle the relocating/adapting of the Air inlet temp sensor. Its the matter of connecting my stock 92 RS V6 intake hose to it. Its too short and not big enough in diam.
Thanks,
Thanks,
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Re: Super Score!!!
2 3 inch silicone couplers and a section of 3 inch ex tubing,
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Car: 1991 Camaro
Engine: LH0 3.1L V6
Transmission: uhh... an automatic one.
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Re: Super Score!!!
I was gonna say the 3"OD/3"OD exhaust adaptor... it's about 4" long.
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Re: Super Score!!!
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Re: Super Score!!!
Thanks a million guys...
This should help me out a bit on millage, and maybe some on power. Lord knows this 3.1 needs all the help it can get. lol
Thanks again,
Max
This should help me out a bit on millage, and maybe some on power. Lord knows this 3.1 needs all the help it can get. lol
Thanks again,
Max
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Transmission: M22/stock
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Re: Super Score!!!
i got my airbox from the junkyard to and what i did with mine was just add another one of those stock flexible rubber things... fits pretty good, only thing was the hole for the tube that goes to the valve cover was in the way so all i did was trim it with a razor and used some special tape that blocks out air and water and it worked fine... ill take some pics and find out the name of that tape asap
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Car: 89 V6 Camaro
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Re: Super Score!!!
I dunno what the V6s use, but the TPI uses, basically, a WATER temp sensor and it gets heat soaked by the manifold. Whereas the TBIs use a TRUE air temperature sensor, giving a better reading for the ECM. When I did mine, I noticed that the throttle response, after the engine had gotte hot/warmed up, was just as crisp as when it was cold, because the metal wasn't affecting the reading to the ECM. Now, yours in already in the "cold" plastic, so that helps, but the TBI (if the V6 sensor isn't the same) will help you too.
This article is more about relocating a TPI sensor, but also addresses useing a TBI sensor instead, which is applicable to your V6.
http://www.austinthirdgen.org/index.php?pid=24
This article is more about relocating a TPI sensor, but also addresses useing a TBI sensor instead, which is applicable to your V6.
http://www.austinthirdgen.org/index.php?pid=24
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Re: Super Score!!!
On start up, when the engine is still cold, the engine STARTS on a touch of the key. Before the IAT relocation, after the engine was warmed up, it would take a few secods of cranking to start. AFTER the relocation, warm car starts are as quick as when it is cold, and throttle response feels quicker.
Granted, this is all testing by the good old butt-dyno, so it's not very scientific. But I stil believe it is worth the effort.
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Re: Super Score!!!
Exactly what year car should I get the water temp sensor for? I'm not familiar with the V8 years.
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Re: Super Score!!!
the tape is a stretch and seal tape and its usually in the adhesives section of auto places... and here are the pics of the rubber hose


i used a razor to trim all of the extra rubber around it... i used the tape to seal the hole and and it slid right in


i used a razor to trim all of the extra rubber around it... i used the tape to seal the hole and and it slid right in
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Car: 91 firebird
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Re: Super Score!!!
what year f body do the duel snorkels come off cuz the junkyard near my house has tons of f bodies in it and im sure would be pretty easy to find
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Re: Super Score!!!
Didn't mean to abandon the post, been crazy busy. Anyway, I went to the zone and walked into the world of chrome plated pipes and colored silicone boots/clamps.
A few minutes and a few dollars later I had what I needed. Guy at the counter was like, "yeah I got the same setup on my accord". I felt so ashamed.
But hey, it still works...
Thanks all,
A few minutes and a few dollars later I had what I needed. Guy at the counter was like, "yeah I got the same setup on my accord". I felt so ashamed.
But hey, it still works...
Thanks all,
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They wont fit in any Firebirds. So if youre thinking about putting in your Bird, youre out of luck.

