Most of you older members might remember me, had an 86' Camaro was going turbo, ran into finacial issues, got them resolved then bought one of the last Fageol superchargers then wrecked by falling asleep at the wheel.. Well I still have alot of V6 parts including the supercharger and I just ran into another Red 86 sport coupe with a 2.8 pretty much exactly like my old car and Im gonna snag it up if noone else does.. Im very excited and have watched the boards every now and again but I frequent the V8 stuff mainly cause of my T/A.. Now heres the thing after seeing all the turbo guys builds Im thinking of doing the same, maybe twins but not sure.. My old Camaro was a high 15's car N/A with port work, cam and alot of weight reduction, hoping to get low 13's with the new one. Just thought Id let all of you know cause Im pretty darn excited!

 

Welcome back. When are you getting back stateside?

 

Something like another 7 months... but thats doesnt mean I cant start buying parts now!

 

Good to see a V6 trying to be saved. Welcome back. What are you thinking about doing? Hybrid or sticking with the iron heads?
That SC would be bad ***...but you would have to switch back to a carb.

 

I think that he had it on his last Camaro. He was trying to sell it before he shipped out.

 

I did but it was never ran at the track, switched to TBI, Holley Commander 950 system.. The guy at the wrecking yard was pissed when I told him Im taking my S/C hahahaha bastard was gonna ebay it.. I might try to figure out somekind of MPFI for it or Ill have it up for sale again when I get a new crank pulley machined.. Thats about all its missing from what I remember, maybe some bolts but you can get those anywhere.. Deffinately considering a FWD head swap, 3.4 short block is already on the list.. Who knows, its way to early in the game..

 

I'd be happy to take the SC off of your hands...

 

Give it time man haha, I still dont know what Im gonna do yet.. twins would be awsome, or a big single, but a S/C is just

 

Yeah...and when its one of the last ones known...and its a roots style...

Unique, rare, and awesome.

 

I only know of 2, mine and the one in that S10 where the guy bought rocker arms for like $1K, crap was rediculous and then I dont even remember him getting it running or anything..

 

^ Yup, those are some nice units....;

 

Start throwin out some ideas guys.. I think I might just turn this into a poll hahaha

 

Here's an idea, slap that S/C in a manual Fiero (keep it 2.8), and lay the smack down, Click Here....

 

Only then it would be much slower than that fiero, since the vid was of a 3800 and not the waste-of-time 60*

 

^ I know the video was with a 3.8, this is why I mentioned to stick with the 2.8 above (using parentheses) so he could maintain the S/C. Also, why would you consider the 60 degree a waste of time? Is there a particular reason, or is it because nobody else has taken it to the next level yet....?

 

Its a waste of time because 9.9 times out of 10 you are either going to spend a lot more money, or put a lot more effort into something that wont compare to if you had just started with a worthwhile swap in the first place, the people who are determined to waste their time on them are within the bracket of either too dumb to realize the reasons not to go with that engine line, or are ignorant and figure everyone else thats tried just didnt try their exact way.

 

Lets not turn this thread into another "V6 sucks go V8" thread. The people here often keep these motors out of enjoyment or to try something different.

 

.... the only thing that seperates what you would consider worthwhile is the aftermarket. People feel the same way as you do about the LG4, LO3 and LB9 engines, yet through determination, member's like; mw66nova, Fast355 and Preston Smith changed everyone's perspective on what the engine can and can't do, starting as the foundation of a simple build.

Again, I would consider such people to be pioneer's in this field, and not some sort of quack, and/or "dumb". There is nothing wrong with building up a 2.8/3.1 engine, again, other than the limited aftermarket performance parts. An engine is an engine, what makes it perform to it's fullest potential is simply determined on the symmetry of the valvetrain, as well as dynamic/static compression ratio's, and the velocity of air flow. Incidently, prior to the LC2, the Buick 3.8 was considered an absolute dog throughout the 70's, just as you consider the 60 degree V6 today. If more people thought like you back then, the Grand National and TTA's would never had seen the light of day....

It doesn't have to be, we're only discussing....

 

Well considering I switched to a V8 after I wrecked my other V6 and now know what the differences are i wanna go back to a 60*. My T/A is above and beyond what a stock 2 bolt main block and lower end should be capable of withstanding, cast crank and all the only thing I did was have it bored and got new pistons. Its holding up tho I give it that but i think I can make a sixxer just as fun and maybe just as fast as my 355 is. Plus my old Camaro beat out 305TBI cars all the damn time.

 

I wouldnt use a poorly built 350, nor 305 tbi cars for much of a reference much, my barely modified 2.0L 240sx will leave both sitting like ducks.

2.8RS my posts didnt say "v6 sucks go v8" it said the 60* was a waste of time, there are plenty of fast V6's out there, plenty of good V6 platforms, the 60* just really isnt it. Though most of the time it would be a better idea to go with a decent V8 (chargers poorly built 355 is giving him a poor idea of what a decently swapped V8 will do) there are good 6 cyl choices, the 3800 wouldnt be a bad choice and though the few that i've seen around here were what i would consider poorly done swaps due to the quality of the work, or lack thereof, it would be capable of making quite a performer out of a thirdgen. Eventually I will own a 6 cyl thirdgen myself, though it will have nothing in common around here as it will be an inline, and of the toyota variety, but we'll leave that one for when the time comes

 

Poorly built huh? Im sorry but when did ever see my engine or what it can do? I highly doubt your 240 could leave me like I was sitting still wether its an SR20DET or not... If I wasnt in Iraq right now Id deffinately take a trip down to FL paying $5 a gallon too just so that we could see how poorly my engine is built.. I said like 2 things about my engine and oh my god I cant build an engine, did you think maybe once that I know what Im actually doing and didnt buy all the forged crap thats completely unnescisary* for a street motor..?

 

If it didnt perform well enough that you are talking about replacing it with a 60* V6, something is wrong, you also referred to "beating out 305 tbi cars all the time" which sure seems like a reference to your idea of fast to me.

 

I never said it didnt perform well at all, in fact I said it performed above and beyond what I think a 2 bolt block should be capable of. And as for beating out 305TBI cars all the time I was reffering to my old 60* V6 Camaro.

 

What I see here is that he has a 84' T/A with a 355.

 

Let see if I can clear this up some more.

Old Camaro(now wrecked) specs: 2.8L 60* V6 auto 3.42 non LSD or posi with simple air box mods, some porting, and a catback then a week prior to wrecking it I had the fageol supercharger intstalled along with a Holley commander 950 TBI system and let me tell you That thing was ***** out for a small 2.8L. I beat 305TBI/carb'd auto and manual Camaros and Firebirds all the time before I even had the S/C on there.

My current T/A specs: 2 bolt 010 block bored .030, new bearings and such, Melling high volume oil pump, Wiesco aluminum dome pistons cause the block wasnt decked, Voodoo cam 504/525 lift, Etec 200's 67cc chambers 10.8:1, Airgap duel plane intake, Holley 700DP, Summit 1.6 full roller rockers, hooker 2460's and ypipe, 3in exhaust to the diff where it dumps into a 3in bullet. This isnt everything but considering I started building this engine when I was 17 and couldnt have much work done to it due to finacial status Id say its doing pretty good for me being 19 now. Ive yet to dyno it cause Im doing the exhaust over when I get home but its deffinately gonna be north of 400hp. Evetually Im gonna build a 383 short block thats why I got big heads but mostly everything else is gonna carry over.

Now, Im keeping everything in my T/A and buying another Camaro with a 60* V6 in it, not replacing the 355 in my T/A for a V6. Is there anything else your still confused about or what? I want the V6 for 1) gas mileage 2) weight distrobution and 3) something different that I once started out with at 15. I dont think you read any of my other posts in this thread too thuroughly because most of this was said in prior posts.