I just ran 0-60 in 5 secs. I don't know the offical time but I have a pretty steady count in my head. To me this is a very good time. I'm running an auto so I let off the gas at 40 mph @ 3k rpms and floored it to 6,000 rpms @ 60 mph. My car is stock im excited! 
I do have a question tho... It took a 1/8th tank of gas just doing that. Maybe I have a leak?
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You are barely going to make it 60 feet in 2.4 seconds.
You are barely going to make it 60 feet in 2.4 seconds.
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Still not convinced. It takes over 17sec for a 3.1 to go over 75mph.Originally Posted by Raz
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dude noway i def pulled that in a 5 in my 92' birdOriginally Posted by firstfirebird
Still not convinced. It takes over 17sec for a 3.1 to go over 75mph. Junior Member
But is your bird stock??
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not gonan happen
my car possibly
a stock 2.8/3.1/3.4 maybe with a 120 shot of nitrous
mines the left side now im dam curios to get an 0-60 time
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Temp F. 63
Relative Humidity 0
Absolute Barameter 29.57
GOOD YEAR TOYOTA
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Car# 6777 ........ 9451
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R/T -.075 ...........039
60 2.145 ..........2.542
330 5.904 ........6.999
1/8 9.038 ........10.672
mph 78.47 .......66.40
1000 11.734 ....13.867
1/4 14.013 .......16.568
mph 98.79 ........83.42
my car possibly
a stock 2.8/3.1/3.4 maybe with a 120 shot of nitrous
mines the left side now im dam curios to get an 0-60 time
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Temp F. 63
Relative Humidity 0
Absolute Barameter 29.57
GOOD YEAR TOYOTA
LEFT RIGHT
Car# 6777 ........ 9451
Class
Dial
R/T -.075 ...........039
60 2.145 ..........2.542
330 5.904 ........6.999
1/8 9.038 ........10.672
mph 78.47 .......66.40
1000 11.734 ....13.867
1/4 14.013 .......16.568
mph 98.79 ........83.42
Yeah, it's 140,k miles and i cleaned the throttle valve and intake out. I got dual exhuslt. im gonna try to see if my camera works so i can film it tommaro
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Not in any stock V6 3rd gen.Originally Posted by Raz
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i say somone swaped the gears and his speedo is way off lmao or he cant count lolz
btw the fastest all motor v6 camaro on the boards to date ran 14.9 if im not mistaken
btw the fastest all motor v6 camaro on the boards to date ran 14.9 if im not mistaken
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My neighbor's 327 powered Fiero might pull of a 5 sec 0-60, but a 100whp car that weighs over 3 grand isn't going to. Do you know how fast 0-60 in 5 secs is? That would beat 90% of the cars on the road, minimum.Originally Posted by Raz
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my car possibly
a stock 2.8/3.1/3.4 maybe with a 120 shot of nitrous
mines the left side now im dam curios to get an 0-60 time
9:23 PM
24/May/2008
Temp F. 63
Relative Humidity 0
Absolute Barameter 29.57
GOOD YEAR TOYOTA
LEFT RIGHT
Car# 6777 ........ 9451
Class
Dial
R/T -.075 ...........039
60 2.145 ..........2.542
330 5.904 ........6.999
1/8 9.038 ........10.672
mph 78.47 .......66.40
1000 11.734 ....13.867
1/4 14.013 .......16.568
mph 98.79 ........83.42
Man, what happened to your 60'? I managed 2.3-2.4's with a stock 3.1 no posi.Originally Posted by project89
not gonan happen my car possibly
a stock 2.8/3.1/3.4 maybe with a 120 shot of nitrous
mines the left side now im dam curios to get an 0-60 time
9:23 PM
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Temp F. 63
Relative Humidity 0
Absolute Barameter 29.57
GOOD YEAR TOYOTA
LEFT RIGHT
Car# 6777 ........ 9451
Class
Dial
R/T -.075 ...........039
60 2.145 ..........2.542
330 5.904 ........6.999
1/8 9.038 ........10.672
mph 78.47 .......66.40
1000 11.734 ....13.867
1/4 14.013 .......16.568
mph 98.79 ........83.42
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What about a Firebird? I want a 14flat N/A Originally Posted by project89
btw the fastest all motor camaro on the boards to date ran 14.9 if im not mistaken 
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Man, what happened to your 60'? I managed 2.3-2.4's with a stock 3.1 no posi.
dude left lane 2.1 60's on an very very bad launch those launches will soon be 1.8/1.7 60's Originally Posted by firstfirebird
My neighbor's 327 powered Fiero might pull of a 5 sec 0-60, but a 100whp car that weighs over 3 grand isn't going to. Do you know how fast 0-60 in 5 secs is? That would beat 90% of the cars on the road, minimum.----------
Man, what happened to your 60'? I managed 2.3-2.4's with a stock 3.1 no posi.
didnt u see the video i posted?
she lifts right before the line 6 psi run still working on the tune
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click were it says tunning session #2 for some reason the dam codes from street fire arent workign right
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lmao v8's dont count Originally Posted by firstfirebird
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I found a calculator online...It may be off, but I thought Id throw it out there...
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Horsepower
(at the flywheel): 300 hp
Curb Weight: 3000 lbs
Drive Type: RWD
Transmission: AUTO
Power / Weight Ratio: 0.1
0-60 mph: 5.049314661011848 seconds
Horsepower
(at the flywheel): 300 hp
Curb Weight: 3000 lbs
Drive Type: RWD
Transmission: AUTO
Power / Weight Ratio: 0.1
0-60 mph: 5.049314661011848 seconds
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Horsepower Results - 1/4 Mile MethodYour camaro weighs about 3300 pounds and can complete a 1/4 mile in about 14.0 seconds. That means that you've got about 237.69 HP at the wheels, and about 309.00 HP at the flywheel.
mine actually wieghs just a tad over 3300 again time for another serious diet
but still 6psi of boost for a 140 hp gain at the tires im dam happy




mine actually wieghs just a tad over 3300 again time for another serious diet
but still 6psi of boost for a 140 hp gain at the tires im dam happy




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so by this calculator i'm right?Originally Posted by grimmcs
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mine actually wieghs just a tad over 3300 again time for another serious diet
but still 6psi of boost for a 140 hp gain at the tires im dam happy




sorry for the double post. who's that directed to Project?Originally Posted by project89
Horsepower Results - 1/4 Mile MethodYour camaro weighs about 3300 pounds and can complete a 1/4 mile in about 14.0 seconds. That means that you've got about 237.69 HP at the wheels, and about 309.00 HP at the flywheel.mine actually wieghs just a tad over 3300 again time for another serious diet
but still 6psi of boost for a 140 hp gain at the tires im dam happy




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no that calculator states u need aprox 300 hp at the crank to make a 300 pound car go 0-60 in 5 seconds, ur stock 3.1 makes aprox 85-105 hp to the tires and 140 hp at the crank not even half of what it takes to go 0-60 in 5 secondsOriginally Posted by Raz
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sorry for the double post. who's that directed to Project?
that was just posted agaisnt the times run in my car to further grimmcs post saying u need 300hp to go 0-60 in 5seconds thats what my car makes just over 300 hpOriginally Posted by Raz
so by this calculator i'm right?----------
sorry for the double post. who's that directed to Project?
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Wow..............I cant believe this just keeps going and going...

Get a stopwatch, a video camera, do it again, and get back to us. Until then

Get a stopwatch, a video camera, do it again, and get back to us. Until then

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Get a stopwatch, a video camera, do it again, and get back to us. Until then
ok ill try to get it tommaro. hopefully i got enough gas lolOriginally Posted by grimmcs
Wow..............I cant believe this just keeps going and going...
Get a stopwatch, a video camera, do it again, and get back to us. Until then
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Get a stopwatch, a video camera, do it again, and get back to us. Until then
dude thats the funniest post ive seen all fawking day Originally Posted by grimmcs
Wow..............I cant believe this just keeps going and going...
Get a stopwatch, a video camera, do it again, and get back to us. Until then








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Lol, he's probably young.
I remember about 5 years ago when I first got my Beretta I could have sworn it went 120mph. I went on a forum talking about it and everyone said "no way, you'd have to have your governor removed" which I had no clue about back then. the next day I went out took it up to 100...110..112... vvvvrrrrmmmmm. Started slowing down.
I was quite embarrassed that I stuck with my (false) story, because I was so young I couldn't let it hurt my pride that I was making an idiot out of myself.
If my 3.1L Camaro pulled 5 second 0-60's (not even stock) I'd mess my pants, I'd be so happy... but no way. Unless the car is completely stripped to nothing and you through some NAWS in there, no way. 7 seconds? Maybe. 8's believable, anything under is hard to believe really.
edit: If your phone has a camera, it's probably got a stop watch, time yourself with that. Or get a watch with a second hand or something. You must have counted way too fast.
Here's my STOCK 3.1L V6 with slight engine problems (running rich or something, I suspect) doing about an even 10 second 0-60.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IPefbQ457FY
I remember about 5 years ago when I first got my Beretta I could have sworn it went 120mph. I went on a forum talking about it and everyone said "no way, you'd have to have your governor removed" which I had no clue about back then. the next day I went out took it up to 100...110..112... vvvvrrrrmmmmm. Started slowing down.
I was quite embarrassed that I stuck with my (false) story, because I was so young I couldn't let it hurt my pride that I was making an idiot out of myself.
If my 3.1L Camaro pulled 5 second 0-60's (not even stock) I'd mess my pants, I'd be so happy... but no way. Unless the car is completely stripped to nothing and you through some NAWS in there, no way. 7 seconds? Maybe. 8's believable, anything under is hard to believe really.
edit: If your phone has a camera, it's probably got a stop watch, time yourself with that. Or get a watch with a second hand or something. You must have counted way too fast.
Here's my STOCK 3.1L V6 with slight engine problems (running rich or something, I suspect) doing about an even 10 second 0-60.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IPefbQ457FY
LOL, 5 seconds is faster than a porsche boxster.
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guys cut him some slack he is young hes learning....
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0-60 miles per hour? in 5 seconds?
more likely 0-60 km per hour.
are you looking at kph or mph on your tach gauge?
more likely 0-60 km per hour.
are you looking at kph or mph on your tach gauge?
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more likely 0-60 km per hour.
are you looking at kph or mph on your tach gauge?
Hmm, you might be right here. Sounds a lot more like it. 60kmh = 37mph.Originally Posted by joshh44
0-60 miles per hour? in 5 seconds?more likely 0-60 km per hour.
are you looking at kph or mph on your tach gauge?
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i can see it more being kph not mph
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lol sorry i thought u said went rofl, anyways i believe the fastest na v6 3rdgen is still 14.7-14.9Originally Posted by firstfirebird
What about a Firebird? I want a 14flat N/A
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mine actually wieghs just a tad over 3300 again time for another serious diet
but still 6psi of boost for a 140 hp gain at the tires im dam happy



Originally Posted by project89
Horsepower Results - 1/4 Mile MethodYour camaro weighs about 3300 pounds and can complete a 1/4 mile in about 14.0 seconds. That means that you've got about 237.69 HP at the wheels, and about 309.00 HP at the flywheel.mine actually wieghs just a tad over 3300 again time for another serious diet
but still 6psi of boost for a 140 hp gain at the tires im dam happy



We'll see just how close the Desktop Dyno is
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I really wish desktop dyno was more accurate than it is. Powercurves don't last that long in an engine.
As for 0-60 in 5 seconds with a stock 3.1? Not possible, not even for the best running stock L98's, you know those factory freaks.
This is 0-60 in about 5 seconds, or pretty close to it, and it wasn't a stock L98 either. Pretty soft launch, might have gotten going faster on a track, but this was done from the side of a highway. http://media.putfile.com/zero-2-115
I am in no way saying you couldn't get a stock n/a v6 thirdgen to do it, but no stock one will. In fact the only stock thirdgen I think would have a chance and running to 60 in 5 seconds would be a 89 TTA. Motor trend reported the stock TTA running to 60 in 5 seconds with a 1/4 mile in the low 13's.
As for 0-60 in 5 seconds with a stock 3.1? Not possible, not even for the best running stock L98's, you know those factory freaks.
This is 0-60 in about 5 seconds, or pretty close to it, and it wasn't a stock L98 either. Pretty soft launch, might have gotten going faster on a track, but this was done from the side of a highway. http://media.putfile.com/zero-2-115
I am in no way saying you couldn't get a stock n/a v6 thirdgen to do it, but no stock one will. In fact the only stock thirdgen I think would have a chance and running to 60 in 5 seconds would be a 89 TTA. Motor trend reported the stock TTA running to 60 in 5 seconds with a 1/4 mile in the low 13's.
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its actually pretty close though with mine i expect a huge drop off in power after 7500 rpms Originally Posted by firstfirebird
We'll see just how close the Desktop Dyno is
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acording to the 1/4 mile/wieght formula i make around 309 @ the crank
what does dd have to say about that 311 hp @ the crank

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I know it's not a perfect program, but Dynomation also said I will be over 300 at the crank with my combination. Superdave (purple89ta) used DD to find his cam specs as well. DD showed him making 350bhp, and he actually made 273whp (aprox 319bhp) - some of that was due to the cam mfgr not giving him the exact grind requested, they did the same thing to me 
Dave, not sure what you are asking.

Dave, not sure what you are asking.
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lol i didnt ask anything i was just saying desktop dyno is pretty close,though im hitting a real dyno soon so ill be able to tell u just how close it actually isOriginally Posted by firstfirebird
I know it's not a perfect program, but Dynomation also said I will be over 300 at the crank with my combination. Superdave (purple89ta) used DD to find his cam specs as well. DD showed him making 350bhp, and he actually made 273whp (aprox 319bhp) - some of that was due to the cam mfgr not giving him the exact grind requested, they did the same thing to me 
Dave, not sure what you are asking.
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Im his age I know better. Lol when your taking that video; find someone with an LS1, race them, and video tape it Originally Posted by igotta355z28
guys cut him some slack he is young hes learning.... 
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really but u didnt know enough to get a V8 CAMARO instear of v6 lol....Originally Posted by KBcobra
Im his age I know better. Lol when your taking that video; find someone with an LS1, race them, and video tape it
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The day after I bought my V6 a buddy of mine offered me a full 5.7 TPI motor/tranny/ECM/all the rest of the goodies. I turned it down. Originally Posted by igotta355z28
really but u didnt know enough to get a V8 CAMARO instear of v6 lol.... We dont car about all that V8 crap. Take it somewhere else.
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Im still glad it is a v6. Good gas mileage finally paying off. I also got an offer for a V8. And Im not going to rip the engine out of my daily driver. IMO V6 are the best daily drivers, and a Z28 for the weekends Originally Posted by igotta355z28
really but u didnt know enough to get a V8 CAMARO instear of v6 lol.... 
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really but u didnt know enough to get a V8 CAMARO instear of v6 lol....
NOW THAT IS NOT ONLY FUNNY BUT OHHHH SO TRUE!!!Member
OMG!! How did I get to the import website from here?? V-6 section? I didn't even know they had V-6's in Camaro's LMAO. No I am playin'! If a V-6 is what you want thats cool. But get this Guys with V-8's are like Seniors In High School. They can do and go wherever they please because whether anybody admits it EVERYBODY looks up to a V-8!!
I'm like the guy from Boston "You are thinking it but i got the ballz to say it!!!"
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I'm like the guy from Boston "You are thinking it but i got the ballz to say it!!!"
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I'm like the guy from Boston "You are thinking it but i got the ballz to say it!!!"
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... Ummmm, I can't speak for these guys, but if we could get V8's, we'd probably have them. I know I would. Troll much?Originally Posted by DCOWBOYS1975
OMG!! How did I get to the import website from here?? V-6 section? I didn't even know they had V-6's in Camaro's LMAO. No I am playin'! If a V-6 is what you want thats cool. But get this Guys with V-8's are like Seniors In High School. They can do and go wherever they please because whether anybody admits it EVERYBODY looks up to a V-8!!I'm like the guy from Boston "You are thinking it but i got the ballz to say it!!!"
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On this subject though, I would like to say, a turboed V6 would probably get more respect than a V8 if it was faster than the V8, at least from anyone who knows anything.
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On this subject though, I would like to say, a turboed V6 would probably get more respect than a V8 if it was faster than the V8, at least from anyone who knows anything.
Troll much?? What? Anyway and it might you are correct BUT, if you are gonna say a turboed V-6 then we might want to compare apples to apples and say it would be up against a turboed V-8. And by the way I would still rather have a BONE STOCK V-8 than a turboed V-6. Originally Posted by Picolini
... Ummmm, I can't speak for these guys, but if we could get V8's, we'd probably have them. I know I would. Troll much?On this subject though, I would like to say, a turboed V6 would probably get more respect than a V8 if it was faster than the V8, at least from anyone who knows anything.
You can pick up a V-8 for 500-600 bucks. But anyway I was not talking to the people who would get a V-8 if they could. It was centered about the guy from PA who said he had a chance to get a V_8 and didn't because


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You can pick up a V-8 for 500-600 bucks. But anyway I was not talking to the people who would get a V-8 if they could. It was centered about the guy from PA who said he had a chance to get a V_8 and didn't because

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How about you take your trash talk back to Engine Swap, or better yet, off the boards entirely? If you've got something bad to say about the v6, take it elsewhere. This forum isn't for the pros/cons of the v6, it's for those who have already decided to stick with it.Originally Posted by DCOWBOYS1975
Troll much?? What? Anyway and it might you are correct BUT, if you are gonna say a turboed V-6 then we might want to compare apples to apples and say it would be up against a turboed V-8. And by the way I would still rather have a BONE STOCK V-8 than a turboed V-6. You can pick up a V-8 for 500-600 bucks. But anyway I was not talking to the people who would get a V-8 if they could. It was centered about the guy from PA who said he had a chance to get a V_8 and didn't because


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How about you take your trash talk back to Engine Swap, or better yet, off the boards entirely? If you've got something bad to say about the v6, take it elsewhere. This forum isn't for the pros/cons of the v6, it's for those who have already decided to stick with it. Exactly. It seems like you just came in here to trash talk V6's and say how much better V8's are. Most of us understand that... no need to do it. This is all about constructive talk about the V6 3rd gens, not trying to get people to get v8s.
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OK OK OK I get it calm down I was just playin. I didn't know the V-6 forum was so serious. I'm glad I got a V-8. Back to engine swap?? What are you talking about?? Anyway don't worry there I am going elsewhere now. Originally Posted by forkvoid
How about you take your trash talk back to Engine Swap, or better yet, off the boards entirely? If you've got something bad to say about the v6, take it elsewhere. This forum isn't for the pros/cons of the v6, it's for those who have already decided to stick with it. Sorry to offend anybody I was just playin'. V-6's are cool okay, my wife has one in her minivan. LMAO. No really I didn't mean anything by it. I wasn't trying to bag on the V-6 I honestly dont know why someone would rather have one in a Gen3 rather than a V-8. And I am not talking about if you could get one . LOOK AT GRIMMCS. Thats what I was talking about. Once again I apologize if I offended anyone thats not what is was about.

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haha look what i started. i was just pointing out to the one kid that he didnt have much of a leg to stand on when talking down to RAZ....cause yeah yall are the same age and u might have some more experience then him but we are not gods, everyone says or does something dumb sometime.....i could care less if u have a v6 or v8 really unless a v6guy starts talking crap to a v8 then yeah that entire "senior in highschool" mentality comes into play. Now there are exceptions a turbo v6 are cool and can whip alot of v8s....but anyways like i originally said cut the kid some slack hes young and excited about his car, he is wanting to learn, he isnt coming in here with all these bad habits and half truths that we are almost all stuck with...hes virginal to cars and openminded we can help him learn all the right things and prevent one more Ric er....
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haha look what i started. i was just pointing out to the one kid that he didnt have much of a leg to stand on when talking down to RAZ....cause yeah yall are the same age and u might have some more experience then him but we are not gods, everyone says or does something dumb sometime.....i could care less if u have a v6 or v8 really unless a v6guy starts talking crap to a v8 then yeah that entire "senior in highschool" mentality comes into play. Now there are exceptions a turbo v6 are cool and can whip alot of v8s....but anyways like i originally said cut the kid some slack hes young and excited about his car, he is wanting to learn, he isnt coming in here with all these bad habits and half truths that we are almost all stuck with...hes virginal to cars and openminded we can help him learn all the right things and prevent one more Ric er....
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And why are you dragging me into this? How is my car relevant to this conversation? I was only stating a true statement. Aren't LS1's 0-60 around 5 seconds. I was only saying race one to see if Raz car can do 0-60 in 5 secs (which I doubht). I have the money to buy an LS1 F-body if I wanted to. Why dont I? 1. There nothing wrong with my car. 2. The price I paid back in '06 for my car was an awesome deal for an excellent running soon to be daily driver. 3. National average is close to $4 a gallon now. Whos car going to be hurting the most? I suggest you leave this forum because we don't want people telling us V8's are better. None of us here give a ****ing **** about how good V8's are. If we wanted a V8 we probably would go buy one.Originally Posted by igotta355z28
haha look what i started. i was just pointing out to the one kid that he didnt have much of a leg to stand on when talking down to RAZ....cause yeah yall are the same age and u might have some more experience then him but we are not gods, everyone says or does something dumb sometime.....i could care less if u have a v6 or v8 really unless a v6guy starts talking crap to a v8 then yeah that entire "senior in highschool" mentality comes into play. Now there are exceptions a turbo v6 are cool and can whip alot of v8s....but anyways like i originally said cut the kid some slack hes young and excited about his car, he is wanting to learn, he isnt coming in here with all these bad habits and half truths that we are almost all stuck with...hes virginal to cars and openminded we can help him learn all the right things and prevent one more Ric er.... Member
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And why are you dragging me into this? How is my car relevant to this conversation? I was only stating a true statement. Aren't LS1's 0-60 around 5 seconds. I was only saying race one to see if Raz car can do 0-60 in 5 secs (which I doubht). I have the money to buy an LS1 F-body if I wanted to. Why dont I? 1. There nothing wrong with my car. 2. The price I paid back in '06 for my car was an awesome deal for an excellent running soon to be daily driver. 3. National average is close to $4 a gallon now. Whos car going to be hurting the most? I suggest you leave this forum because we don't want people telling us V8's are better. None of us here give a ****ing **** about how good V8's are. If we wanted a V8 we probably would go buy one. No one was bashing on a V-6. Where do you guys get this from? I don't know about anyone else with a V-8 but I didn't buy it for MPG. I bought it for the same reason I like Camaro's.....ITS WHAT HOT ROD ARE MADE OF!!!!



