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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 10:13 PM
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83 Berlinetta

I'm buying an 83 Berlinetta. For those of us who may have troubles with basic math the car is now this year, 25 years old. this means that in my state it no longer must abide by federal emissions regulations. how involved is the removal of the emissions control systems that plague the engine and desecrate it's power?
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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Re: 83 Berlinetta

ur wasting ur time,leave it intact,specially on a carbed motor.
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 10:31 PM
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Re: 83 Berlinetta

Nothing you're going to remove is going to give you more power.

EGR only works during part throttle, since the power you're looking for is at WOT, there's no vacuum to make the EGR operate.

The catalyst is capable of outflowing at least 300 HP, so that's not going to get you anything.

The Air Injection pump only takes about 1/4 HP to run
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 10:35 PM
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Re: 83 Berlinetta

where would i find am intake that i could attach a 4bbl carb to? how much?
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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Re: 83 Berlinetta

edelbrock makes one and its pricey, look int he performance parts sticky at the top of the v6 section. its in there
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 05:06 AM
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Re: 83 Berlinetta

Originally Posted by 2_point8_boy
Nothing you're going to remove is going to give you more power.

EGR only works during part throttle, since the power you're looking for is at WOT, there's no vacuum to make the EGR operate.

The catalyst is capable of outflowing at least 300 HP, so that's not going to get you anything.

The Air Injection pump only takes about 1/4 HP to run
^^ Why does no one seem to get this concept? Everyone thinks that if you take the cat off youll get 50hp But there really isnt any gain to be made.

Also welcome aboard Hurley_turley. If the emission stuff is in the way or it dosent even work you can take it out...but there is really no more reason to remove it than that.

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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 11:56 AM
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Re: 83 Berlinetta

who decided that you get 50hp by taking off your cat? btw can you use your v6 5spd when swapping to a 305/350 or do you have to get a different one?
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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Re: 83 Berlinetta

the v6 trans wont work with the v8 the v6 trans has a diff spline count then the v8 unit on the input shaft
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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Re: 83 Berlinetta

Originally Posted by Hurley_turley
who decided that you get 50hp by taking off your cat?
Sorry that was sarcasm. You might gain .5 hp by taking off the cat. But I doubt that you would see/knowtice any gain.

Originally Posted by Hurley_turley
btw can you use your v6 5spd when swapping to a 305/350 or do you have to get a different one?
You have to get a different one. The V6 have a different bolt pattern than the V8s do.
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