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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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not the right section really, but you guys are so nice :-)

ive noticed some rear wheel movement when i rock them to and throw - like a wheel bearing. ive tightened the fronts up alittle but i see the rears a replacement job. how much play is 'safe' or should it be solid regardless ? its not massive but its noticeable ?
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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Re: not the right section really, but you guys are so nice :-)

if it is in and out movement, that is how the axles are made. They are held in with a clip and there is quite a bit of play in and out.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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Re: not the right section really, but you guys are so nice :-)

thanks, i sorta had that idea but wasnt too sure. the car has 80thou and isnt trashed or thrashed.thanks
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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Re: not the right section really, but you guys are so nice :-)

The axels do move some. Mine started to clunk going around turns so some poly bushings in the PHB took alot of the play out.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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Re: not the right section really, but you guys are so nice :-)

Something to consider also is if the clip or axle gets worn.. it can drop the clip out and send an axle w/tire and drum attached out the side of the car?.I had the same clunking noise and decided just to check it anyway and opened up the rear end and took a peek..theres a small bolt(holds the cross pin in) to remove ..and you can slide the cross pin out and once the cross pin is out you can get to the clips and remove them.My bolt was broke in two pieces which is a common thing..not too much of concern cause the broken piece was still holding the pin in.In racing applications they make what is called a c-clip eliminator kit where the axles are held in by bolts on the end of the tubes and no more c-clips.There is a amount of play of in and out movement, but would have to research it.Dont know the specs.of hand
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 10:13 AM
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Re: not the right section really, but you guys are so nice :-)

Having disk brakes also eliminates the worry of the axle sliding out. You should be able to buy new c-clips of different thicknessess from the parts store. If you've never exchanged your diff fluid you may want to and then also put the thickest c-clips in the carrier as will fit. Its an easy procedure.
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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Re: not the right section really, but you guys are so nice :-)

Originally Posted by Blue1989RS
Having disk brakes also eliminates the worry of the axle sliding out. You should be able to buy new c-clips of different thicknessess from the parts store. If you've never exchanged your diff fluid you may want to and then also put the thickest c-clips in the carrier as will fit. Its an easy procedure.
hi thanks everyone, cant notice anything whilst driving yet so im quite happy, the above sounds good though thanks blue1989rs. i did change diff and box oil a few months back and all looked clean and tidy when i opened it up.
Happy motoring guys
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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Re: not the right section really, but you guys are so nice :-)

Originally Posted by Blue1989RS
Having disk brakes also eliminates the worry of the axle sliding out. You should be able to buy new c-clips of different thicknessess from the parts store. If you've never exchanged your diff fluid you may want to and then also put the thickest c-clips in the carrier as will fit. Its an easy procedure.
For the different thickness c-clips, do you have any additional information on them? Part numbers, which store chains carry them, etc. Thanks in advance.

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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 10:10 AM
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Re: not the right section really, but you guys are so nice :-)

We have a CarQuest here in Washington and the clips I found in the HELP! turny kiosk thing. I tried to google it, but "HELP" pulls up everything. The package came with two clips of different thicknesses. Mine had been worn down by the spider gear considerably. The thickness you use is determined by the slot cut in the axle. I used the largest one and squeeked it in there.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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Re: not the right section really, but you guys are so nice :-)

Who'd had thought? (on the Help rack). I've been looking for some time, even asked at some rear shops. Thanks.

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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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Re: not the right section really, but you guys are so nice :-)

Originally Posted by Blue1989RS
We have a CarQuest here in Washington and the clips I found in the HELP! turny kiosk thing. I tried to google it, but "HELP" pulls up everything. The package came with two clips of different thicknesses. Mine had been worn down by the spider gear considerably. The thickness you use is determined by the slot cut in the axle. I used the largest one and squeeked it in there.

Might try Dorman instead of HELP! since Dorman distributes all the HELP! products.

https://www.dormanproducts.com/cgi-b...66&vtime=46166
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