idk what the name of the part is but its some pollution crap that connects to the passenger side header. it has a tube that runs from it to the throttle body.

well anyway, it rusted off of the header so now I have this huge exhaust leak. I need a quick fix until theirs better weather. So I was thinking, is it possible to use Quick Steel on the header or will it just burn right off?

Reading about it it says its Resistant to heat and chemicals ( from -70 to +260 Degrees Celsius).

Is this a quick fix thatll work for awhile?



P.S. If you buy Pacesetter Headers buy the coated headers. My non coated headers only lasted a whooping 2 years............

 

Are you talking about the EGR connection and where exactly did it rust off from? A pic would help.

Hopefully not at the the headers themselves as I put a set on my Firebird (although I did go with the ceramic coating).

IDK but for a quick fix, you can try your idea and perhaps some similar type and guage metal shaped to fill over the hole. But...you may find yourself doing the same repair on a daily basis depending on how much you're driving.

If you have another car (and the finances), I would say just take the part into a welding shop and have them fix it. The daily fix aggravation seems too high to me.

 

what he said ^

you could try this steel putty at wal mart for 10 bucks, it worked as a temp fix for my o2 sensor when it snapped off... its only temporary though, and you risk hurting the flow through your EGR which could cause other problems...

one thing I've learned with exhausts over the years though, is that it is easier, and often times cheaper, to just replace rather than repair...
if this is your only vehicle I'd go with the idea I suggested above, if it's not, just leave it and come back to it in the spring...

 

Hey guys, thanks for the responses. I'm just going to go ahead and buy the coated headers even tho I wanted to pay off my credit card first. I'll try the quicksteel until the headers get here and installed.

This is what I was talking about.

This is the part



And here's the part rusted off....



What kind of problems can occur due to this part bein all effed up? I got a SES the other day which gave me a Code 44 (Oxygen sensor lean). Could that be causing this code?

 

how did you do that? yeah that would send a few codes... not to mention give you awful fuel economy and low power... this thing must be a slug...

I'm not sure about this, but someone that I knew with an 88 firebird ordered the 2.8L pacesetter headers and they didn't come with an EGR hookup... so watch for that cause you need it to pass inspection... I doubt they all come that way...

it says on the container of quiksteel to let it set for an hour... but give it 12... if you try and rely on the minimum times, the seal will break, and be sure to clear away as much rust as possible with a steel brush before applying it...

 

lol. Yea I have NO idea how that happened. Luckily I saw it tho, was originally checking the header for a gasket leak and then I saw that. Mind you I also have to get a new gasket.

Thanks for tha help

 

OMG how u do that just get new headers man damn i dont thing is worth fixing

 

and did I mention Seriously, I agree with you rsrsrs. If it was a hole out the side, I would agree with your idea as per my previous post for a temporary fix. But, to try and fix that, even at the best, it will never hold for long. Even with a shop, they will be chasing the rust forever with a welder.

Out of curiosity, how old are those headers?
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Also, I should have mentioned, that you will definitely get codes on that and the car will barely run let alone have any "oomph". So this is the source of your codes.

 

lol The headers are only 2 years old max. I ordered the coated headers last night. Summit won't have them until 2/7 so I'm going to have to try the Quick Steel. I'll try to take some pics. As long as it holds till 2/7 I'll be happy. Car sounds like absolute crap right now tho lol

 

Your best 'fix' would be to clean that thing really good, then take it to a welding shop and have someone braze the thing back on. It has to be really clean for the brazing to hold, but it will do the trick. The 'cold weld' formulas will only burn away. They aint' gonna work! Your exhaust is much hotter than 375 degrees, more like 600 degrees, and that stuff just won't stand the heat.

How long did you say it would be until you got the new headers??? I think that I would take the mounting plate off of the EGR valve and neck, clean it up really good with a wire wheel, then take the car down to a welding shop and have them braze it up. You can then put the EGR back on there and drive the thing. The brazing will last a while, and then you can wait until spring to change it out to your new set of headers.

 

Well i scooped up sum header fix but had 0 luck getting the stuff on, Just not enough room to get my hand in there. Also the tube that runs to the EGR HAS CRACKED!!! So it wouldn't make any sense to fix now anyway. Ill hit up the junkyard this Friday. Friend of mine that works there has 20 camaros in the yard.

for the help guys. Remember BUY COATED! lol

 

*sigh*

Now Summit is expecting to have the headers 2/20 dammit!

 

http://allentown.craigslist.org/pts/985658145.html

I was gonna buy em, but they won't work with the AIR system and I gotta stay smog legal...

 

Do they do a visual or the sniffer test? I had to pull my AIR system on my build because it didn't fit. My numbers are in the following post:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/v6/4...its-alive.html

So, it could still work for you.

 

nah it's a visual here in berks county for vehicles '95 and older... they need to see the AIR pump there... and '95 and above is the visual and the computerized diagnostic...
to be honest I'd try to get away with it if I could be sure it would work, and if I knew I wouldn't have to worry about finding a pulley to replace the AIR pump since apparently it doesn't fit with the pacesetter headers...

same goes with the catalytic converter as far as the visual inspection goes, it's gotta be there... surrounding counties don't need it, just us

the only real escape is to get classic tags, then you can get away with it... but my camaro is my daily beater. My firebird is my classic and doesn't have any emissions crap...

 

I posted into the following thread regarding the AIR pump. If the pulley still turns, what the heck leave it in to pass the visual (if that works and the inspector is friendly). The back end does not fit under the headers!!

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/v6/4...r-headers.html

I did leave the cat in place but went with a heated O2 sensor.

The other option as suggested above is to wait for collectors plates, but you still have to pass emissions once to get the exemption (at least that is what the case is here in British Columbia - although there is no visual).

 

Hmm, I don't recall having to do any mods with my AIR.

Anyway, GTA50 do you have a link to the heated o2 your using?

 

Hey rsrsrs:

There are a number of posts in the Tech Engine section. Just have to do a search for specifics. I used one for a 1994 S-10, 4.3 V-6. It's a three-wire, so black connects to the O2 sensor wire, one white wire goes to ground (back of the engine worked for me) and the other white wire goes to a 12V circuit that in only "live" when the ignition is on. Doesn't matter which white wire you pick. You can then either solder the connections or get a pigtail from TPIS I believe to make a more usable plug-in.

 

Go to the junkyards and find an early 90's chevy or other GM vehicle with the 3 wire 02 sensor in it. Cut the pigtail out of it, then go get a new 02 sensor to fit the vehicle that you took it out of. S-10s, Sonomas, and full size trucks from 1993-95 would be your best bet.