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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

I climbed up under my bluebird and i traced lines, and found this in a half of line...

Is this my fuel filter?

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Thanks, Schwinny.


Oh and BTW, Check this out.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Yes, that is your fuel filter. And for fvck sake, Quit calling it a 2.3!

I know for A FACT the 87' v6 was a 2.8. That's whats in mine.

Not trying to bash you, but it says it on top of the intake plenum....

Also, i would advise a new belt and clean the pulleys o.O

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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Originally Posted by V6F1R3BRD
Yes, that is your fuel filter. And for fvck sake, Quit calling it a 2.3!

I know for A FACT the 87' v6 was a 2.8. That's whats in mine.

Not trying to bash you, but it says it on top of the intake plenum....

Also, i would advise a new belt and clean the pulleys o.O

Haha, So it is.


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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Good question..... You gotta learn some how! Soak them fuel lines overnight with P.B.Blast >>> you crimp/twist them fuel lines you will be spending more cash to replace the lines also >>> Good luck!
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

So i need to soak the lines, and put on a new one of these.

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/cat...entId=cat30060


Correct?
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Link brought up main menu @ Autozone is all........ That connection looks tough! If u can't get it no big deal you can get a pipe cutter and new line with "compression fittings" to replace that section if you twist/**** it up...... Don't over think things! It's just a straw with a bad filter in the middle!
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Originally Posted by bitchin_buick
Link brought up main menu @ Autozone is all........ That connection looks tough! If u can't get it no big deal you can get a pipe cutter and new line with "compression fittings" to replace that section if you twist/**** it up...... Don't over think things! It's just a straw with a bad filter in the middle!

Right on.

Its a project for tomorrow.

Im havin a party, and me and the boys are gonna drink some brew, then go work on my car.
It should be done by mid noon. :P
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Ya man. Its really easy. like he said just soak it with pb or something similar. and bam done.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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You guys rock here.


Great site. There should be a world like this.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Alright, Got the fuel filter off.

Should fuel spray out of the nozzle when i crank the motor?
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Originally Posted by Schwinny
Alright, Got the fuel filter off.

Should fuel spray out of the nozzle when i crank the motor?
your doing it before u put on the new filter to test the pump right.... Cranking and seeing gas is good >>> means pump is OK
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

What nozzle? or are u talking bout the fuel line?
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Originally Posted by bitchin_buick
What nozzle? or are u talking bout the fuel line?

Yeah.

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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Well thats the thing.

Im not getting any fuel out of the line.

Is it my pump?

Or is it _insert non labor intensive part_ ?
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

I would try the relay first >>> 20bucks & Easy to do..... If that don't get the pump running then yup, time to drop the tank >> Replace the pump... Good luck!
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 11:54 AM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Originally Posted by bitchin_buick
I would try the relay first >>> 20bucks & Easy to do..... If that don't get the pump running then yup, time to drop the tank >> Replace the pump... Good luck!
Wheres the relay?

How do i replace it?
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

>Goto the V6 forum and ask.< I have a differnt motor than u. Mine is on the fire wall behind the master cylinder (behind where u put brake fluid in) It just plugs in like a BIG fuse is all! Do you hear the pump kick on at all? Lay buy the tank and have someone else crank her over to see if you hear the pump trying to kick on.... Do you have PLENTY of gas in her to help her prime since she sat so long? Once you get her going it will be worth all this hassle!
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

I still haven't found mine.. -.-

But in worst case scenario(fuel pump), I know that some of our cars had a tank access under the carpet in the trunk.
Just makes it easier.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Originally Posted by V6F1R3BRD
I still haven't found mine.. -.-

But in worst case scenario(fuel pump), I know that some of our cars had a tank access under the carpet in the trunk.
Just makes it easier.

Was just thinking of that.

Btw, I got it to crank.

Put a can of gas straight to the fuel rail.

It starts till my can runs empty.

Its progress.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

At least u know it runs!

Thats good to hear. Mine started out in pretty rough shape. But for a $450 car, and $1000-$1500 in parts, it was WELL worth the investment imo. Of course i did all the labor so its got sentimental value to me.

Also, do you have the intake tubes and sensors? They will be needed to run just right. lol
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Just make one of your buddy's ride under the hood and have him pour gas in as you go! > Hook the throttle up to his nuts!< Glad to hear you got her to fire! Ask at autozone > Alot of times they know where stuff is located > Ask a manager or someone who has worked there for a while... You find the right guy > they can help you out alot. I would still try to replace the RELAY first.... Keep us posted!
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 07:50 AM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

As far as an "access panel" for the fuel pump, none of our cars came with that. the only cars that have it are the ones that people cut in there. Fuel pumps arent a quick easy job, you have to drop the exhaust, lower the rear axle to get the tank out.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Originally Posted by drdave88
As far as an "access panel" for the fuel pump, none of our cars came with that. the only cars that have it are the ones that people cut in there. Fuel pumps arent a quick easy job, you have to drop the exhaust, lower the rear axle to get the tank out.
Yeah my buddy told me that...

Do i really HAVE to drop the Rear end?

Can i just slip it out?
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 11:02 AM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Gah, I really wish i had a lift....

I hate jackstands and floor jacks...

Can anyone level with this?
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Your relay is also behind the brake booster a good way to test the pump is at the diagnostic port you plug a wire into the lower left port with 12v+ on it if all your fuses are good the pump should run if it doesn't you may have a bad fuse in the fuse panel or the fuse on the passenger side next to your evap canister and if all the fuses are good the relay or pump is bad and you can replace the relay easy and cheaper than a fuel pump and is good insurance if you do need a pump .
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

You can find pics all overthe site where folks cut their own access hole to change it. I sure as heck did. Im wayto lazy to start unbolting the rear end crap when an air chisel works quicker.

ALso can't tell ya how nice it been able to access the FP stuff any time I want now. Have had it back open a dozen times plus.

Who wants to drop the rear every time ya need to mess with it????

Now they did finally add an access door factory in 2000 then shut down the line in 2002.

Wonder if the 2010 has one???
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

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You can find pics all overthe site where folks cut their own access hole to change it. I sure as heck did. Im wayto lazy to start unbolting the rear end crap when an air chisel works quicker.

ALso can't tell ya how nice it been able to access the FP stuff any time I want now. Have had it back open a dozen times plus.

Who wants to drop the rear every time ya need to mess with it????

Now they did finally add an access door factory in 2000 then shut down the line in 2002.

Wonder if the 2010 has one???
Yeah it would be nice, but i dont want to cut up my car, Know what i mean.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Originally Posted by 89-bird
Your relay is also behind the brake booster a good way to test the pump is at the diagnostic port you plug a wire into the lower left port with 12v+ on it if all your fuses are good the pump should run if it doesn't you may have a bad fuse in the fuse panel or the fuse on the passenger side next to your evap canister and if all the fuses are good the relay or pump is bad and you can replace the relay easy and cheaper than a fuel pump and is good insurance if you do need a pump .
Elaborate please?

I have 0 clue what you are talkin about.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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Can someone show me where to cut a hole if i were to.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

if you are standing in front of the car with the hood up..look to your right to where the big clump of wires come out of your car by that big black round thing..thats your brake booster ..you see the oval thing to the right of it..thats your relay..now the fuse is on the left side in the fender wall..there should be two of them..you won't know they are fuses until you unplug it....



by the way thats an late 86 sold in 87..reason i know is the wiper motor..87 to i think 90 had the plug on top left of the motor

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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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Im keepin it as an 87 lol. :P
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

[quote=snowman383;4197373]if you are standing in front of the car with the hood up..look to your right to where the big clump of wires come out of your car by that big black round thing..thats your brake booster ..you see the oval thing to the right of it..thats your relay..now the fuse is on the left side in the fender wall..there should be two of them..you won't know they are fuses until you unplug it....


Thanks snowman383 I only get on here in the mornings and the fuse panel is on the driverside under the dash and the diagnostic port is on the driver side next to the radio and heat and air controls and bothe have covers over them .
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

Originally Posted by Schwinny
Im keepin it as an 87 lol. :P

Ya mine has 86 on the door sticker but 87 on the title...? O.o
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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Re: Not sure if the right spot, but Fuel filter help.

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Ya mine has 86 on the door sticker but 87 on the title...? O.o
Yeah so does mine.

Wierd eh?
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 06:09 AM
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What month does it say? if its a late month, it is an early 87 production vehicle. Ever notice that the new model year cars always come out in like august or september of the year before. its only june 09 and 2010 camaros are already at dealers.
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