but will it sound okay with both pipes?

 

The stock exhaust has two pipes coming out of the muffler already. Youre best bet is to get a catback system like Dynomax. its a good price and sounds really good. youd have to do custom work to actually Y the exhaust after the converter and run it. and it wont really benefit you anyway. check out the dynomax catback on summit

 

everyone here keeps telling me i need the computer for this swap. is this correct?

 

N. O. I don't who who's telling you that you need to swap in an SFI NON-programmable PCM, but you don't. Your 1227302 will run the 3.4 just fine provided you use the 3.4 fuel injectors.

 

its my dads friend, hes trying to tell my dad that hes done this swap before and that since the compression (sp?) and the fireing order are different i need the computer to make it run right. i know the compressions different but i also know the fireing order is right

 

I would suggest not listening to that guy as he's not right in any way

The ECM is not needed... Read the threads we have given you 6 more times

 

iv read them lol, i think im ready for the swap. iv got like 50 pages of information on this swap

 

no u dont need n ecm, its pretty much the same engine, and ur using ur 2.8 intakes and everything, only diff is the block and heads, why would u need a diff ecm????

JUST make sure u use the 3.4 injectors IN THE 2.8 manifolds and ull b fine, dude doesnt kno what hes talkin bout dont listen to em

 

when did firing orders change? all the 660s are 1-2-3-4-5-6. i wouldnt let ur dads friend near your engine swap, lol.

 

agreed with ^^^^, firing order is the same, compression maybe slightly duff but then again ITS A BIGGER ENGINE lol, this doesnt make a difference

 

it always amuses me when an outside person(such as dads friend) will step in and try to tell facts about a set up that he has absolutely no clue about. between the guys on here and the fieros this swap is extremely common, and it does work as easy as it sounds in most cases

 

i know its gonna work i just gotta get my dad to go along, but your last sentence scares me alittle...

 

haha sorry... but things do go wrong in any project just keep that in mind fix what breaks and move on. stay positive

 

There's absolutely nothing to worry about. It just drops in and goes, with the exception of anything (bolts, mostly, especially on the exhaust manifolds) that may or may not break during the swap.

Only thing I can think of what your dad's friend was thinking was that you are trying to swap in a 3.8 or 3800 and not a 3.4, which is pretty much the same as what you have with a bigger bore and longer piston travel. The 3.8/3800 has a different firing order, 1-6-5-4-3-2, but if you were going to swap that in, you would be dealing with replacing other big parts such as the transmission and the driveshaft as well (different length for possibly different trans).

 

okay, also any tips on pulling those plugs out for the fan switchs, dizzy ect?

 

not sure myself but as for ur exhaust, i ran 2.5" off teh y pipe, magnaflow cat, 2.5" out to a flowmaster 40 series n 3" outlets n chrome tips, not loud but not quite and sounds really good for a stock v6, cant wait to c how it sounds with a 3.4 with a cam and headers

 

^ This guy is soo far off on the exhaust... Flowmasters sound like crap on anything that doesn't have a V8, period, and it will sound even worse with 3" outlet pipes. Not to mention that the mention of the word "Flowmaster" jacks up the price...

You don't need the fan switch... It's just a backup for the ECM fan control. However, if you want to swap over the fan switch (and you may not but you will need to do the same for the gauge sender in the other head), just use a small punch on an edge of it and get it cocked in the hole so you can pry it out.

 

sounds easy enough. went to go get into my car today and noticed i was missing a lug nut and my damn charcoal canister is leaking again....it hasnt done this since i fixed my lines in the fall and iv ran this car alot so idk whats wrong now..

 

yea maverick i kno flowmasters are blowmasters, youv seen me on here and been talkin to me bout how to do my exhaust, i said i had a 40 series in teh basement with 3in inlet and outlets on it and just used it to save $$ for now, plus cept for magnaflow everything sounded lik a buzz bomb or a 4 cylinder

IT ACTUALLY sounds halfway decent for a v6, not saying its a v8 sound but doesnt scream hey look at me ima v6 either, unless ur reving the **** outa it, has a little rumbly idle, its decent for a budget exhaust, if you hav the $$ id STRONGLY sugest finding better

as for when the 3.4 goes in mine ill b doing it differently,

and maverick, no offence but i think dynomax on a 60* makes it sound lik 4 banger, no rumble, not even a low tone....

 

heres my flowmasters which i paid next to NOTHING for, slightly used flowmaster 40 series and 3'' inlet and outlets, all new cat and pipes from y pipe to teh flowmaster, flowmaster was 3 months old when i got it, was on a car i bought

 

Have you heard a dynomax catback on a V6 3rd gen? They actually sound pretty decent. Ive never had any complaints with mine and have had compliments from others. I guess if youre trying to sound like a bada$$ V8, then yes its not going to sound good to you. but it comes with the territory. youre not gonna sound like a V8 if youre missing 2 cylinders.

 

this is what i want, i want that kind of setup at the rear. i was thinking cherrybombs for the mufflers. my piping is new except my my cat and front, and iv gotta replace my donut gaskets so when i take the manifolds off im hoping i can get to those aswell. i dont wanna sound like a v8 but i want alittle sound to it. damn my grandpas impala sounds meaner than mine

 

also blue, how visable are the tips when the cars on the ground? also what kind of tips are those because i like them.

 

I had that EXACT same setup on my car when I bought it other than the fact that the cat had been cut out and replaced with a test pipe. I hated the exhaust note SO MUCH I SPENT 2 HOURS CUTTING THE MUFFLER OFF BY HAND (I had no power tools at the time to do the job) because it was welded to the intermediate pipe. The Flowmaster alone costs $80... I can get (and have gotten) 2 Thrush Turbo glasspacks and outlet pipes for the end of the intermediate pipe for that price (not counting the $25 resonating tip I have on the end of the last outlet pipe) and the note sounds MUCH better. The Flowmaster sounds like crap, and has been proven to actually hurt exhaust flow, which is why I never want one near my car again (and won't think about getting one on a V8).

Besides, single outlet exhaust will only be temporary for me when I get the car reassembled again. When I get the money, I'm taking the true dual road, even with the fact I'll have to make custom headers.

 

MY V6 has a very deep rumble to it. I'll try to get a clip later today.

 

the muffler is a '3 inlet and outlet flowmaster 40 series, the pipes coming out each side and the tipes are also flowmaster, it was order im guesing since its all welded and pre bent to fit a camaro and teh tips say flowmaster on them and are angle bent so they tuck up nice and poke out a lil, say flowmaster on the top of em to

AS for how it looks on the ground gime one sec and ill get u some pics, it could look alot better, they dont come out as far as id like em to but i was also working with used sh*t lol

and it DOESNT sound lik som bad *** v8 but IT DEF doesnt sound like a v6, its.. good sound, nice deep tone to it, gets a little whiney at real high rpm but still sounds decent, i KNOW flowmaster suck but this one sounds decent to me

AND yes iv heard dynomax on a 60* i dont like how they sound, too much of a buzz sound, sounds liek a 6 cyl mustang with its muffler full of water, not sayin it soudns terible its ok but just not my preference, everyone HAS THEIR own opinion buddy not saying anything bad about your car

ILL try to get a clip of teh sound if i can, my cell phone sucks


pics one sec

 

SHUSH I KNOW SHES DIRTY

lol here ya go, ill work on a vid next of how it sounds

 

i like the look, nice and clean, just needs a bath but dont worry mines the same lol, you need center caps!! lol

 

yea i cant find any, i just got those wheels a few weeks ago, i also gota 5th one im sanding and painting black with machined lips, im gona do em all like that, gona look really nice

and look everyone badmouths flowmaster, but really they arent that good, but then again, budget wise they can be, u always see it on mustangs and camaros and it sounds really good imo, not *****, not whiney, but there is better out there

I CANT WAIT TO SEE HOW IT SOUNDS WITH HEADERS

 

i know a guy that has a set of 4 black on here thats wanting to sell them for $20, if you want them let me know!!, im running stock muffler so my car sounds like a puss....i miss when i didnt have any exhaust, only to the cat :]

 

umm, i got a flowmaster 80 series, very similar to mine but a little louder with stock size pipes out of it i culd maybe sell ya, and yes im deff interested in the caps bud