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Old Jun 14, 2001 | 12:26 AM
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Just a question..........

I know a lot of you are probably going to get mad when I ask this but, Is a gta a formula? And what is the difference between a formula and a firebird or T/A? Just a question don't get mad.

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Old Jun 14, 2001 | 06:49 AM
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You should ask this on the history/restoration board. I'd help you if I could, but my knowledge is more of Camaros.
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Old Jun 14, 2001 | 09:11 AM
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As far as I know...

A GTA is a Trans Am.

The Formula is a stripped trans am; not as many options, and no ground effects. I think it's more of the "racing only" version, where the trans-am is the "racing/luxury" version.

That is, I think. I've seen some Formulas that look pretty fancy on the inside.


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Old Jun 15, 2001 | 10:37 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TomP:
As far as I know...

A GTA is a Trans Am.

The Formula is a stripped trans am; not as many options, and no ground effects. I think it's more of the "racing only" version, where the trans-am is the "racing/luxury" version.

That is, I think. I've seen some Formulas that look pretty fancy on the inside.


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The Formula is the Firebird equivalent of the Camaro RS. The Trans Am would be the same as a Z-28. The GTA was the Trans Am taken one step further, just like the IROC was to the Z-28.

If not familiar with either the Camaro or Firebird.

RS/Formula = appearance over performance
Z-28/Trans Am = appearance with performance
GTA/IROC-Z = even more performance without losing any style at all


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Old Jun 15, 2001 | 11:02 PM
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yeah thats exactly what bugs me:

in 1991 the Z28 became the looker and the performer...........if you ask me the RS should have gotten the nice fancy wing
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Old Jun 16, 2001 | 06:31 PM
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That's what I'm saying!

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Old Jun 16, 2001 | 07:13 PM
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I have to agree with the statement above as far as the apearance package.

But remember the Formula 350's?...they had the performance...

But I would have to say that for the better part the firebird is the base same as the RS. Formula would be the Z/28, with no frills. T/A, Iroc. But also remember that Pontiac has had a lot more names for their 3rd gens, camaro's have had only a few. They just went from Bretalina to RS...Z/28 and Iroc. The Iroc and the Z were the same package just different years. Chevy found that people liked the name Z/28 more than Iroc, for natalgic reasons. So the Z/28 term was kept.



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Old Jun 16, 2001 | 08:29 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Camaro_hunter_d:
Chevy found that people liked the name Z/28 more than Iroc, for natalgic reasons. So the Z/28 term was kept.
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The IROC name was ditched because their licence contract expired and Dodge picked up the IROC name. And only first gens (maybe 2nd too) used Z/28. Now it's just Z28.
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Old Jun 17, 2001 | 03:43 AM
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So the formula is like a trans am for racing? So it doesn't have auto locks and power windows? Is this to cut down on weight? I saw a fourth gen formula and it looks identical I think to the trans am. So whats a firehawk then? I know it's like a kick a$$ firebird/trans am look a like but what else is different?

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Old Jun 17, 2001 | 12:09 PM
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The Firehawk began in 1991 as a non- regular production car built by SLP (street legal performance) and sold through dealers. Included was a 350 HP 350 TPI with a T-ram plenum. ZF 6-speed tranny from a vette. Brembo brakes, roll bar, no back seat. Price: $50,000. 6 built in 1991, 19 in 1992. As for 4th gens, i dunno the specs but i do know that many more were produced as the public became more aware of the Firehawk.

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Old Jun 18, 2001 | 09:17 AM
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Elevario, no, a Formula can get power windows & locks & seats & whatever. The "style" of the car is racing-only. My friend's old '91 Formula was optioned out (with power equip)- but no ground effects, no leather seats, etc.


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Old Jun 18, 2001 | 01:00 PM
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Wow. So do formulas cost more?
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